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I will admit to never visiting either city, but my impression is that they are car dependent without major subway service? Probably some bus line with very loca
by nytesky 3y ago
I will admit to never visiting either city, but my impression is that they are car dependent without major subway service? Probably some bus line with very local service?
It’s like 2-3 hr drive between the two cities, and at both end you have to navigate auto transport, most likely a rental though maybe Uber would work out but at greater cost for anything beyond a single destination. I would imagine most people would just opt to drive, since they need a car at either end of that line?
- AndyMcConachie 3y agoYup. And the station in Los Angeles will be far east of downtown. So if you take Amtrak into LA you'll have to take a taxi or a bus to further transfer to Los Vegas.
- acchow 3y agoStrange because the San Francisco terminus is downtown
- this15testingg 3y agothe CAHSR station is at LA's Union station, which I think is the context of this set of comments. The line to Vegas (brightline west) does indeed end (for now) in Rancho Cucamonga with plans to continue on to LA's Union Station
- dhosek 3y agoThey’re referring to a different California HSR. Also, for the Las Vegas link, the terminus is on the Metrolink line so you can take a commuter train from Union Station. People taking Amtrak from points east could get off at the Ontario station and it’s a relatively short taxi/bus ride to the RC terminal (Amtrak uses a different set of tracks coming into L.A. from the east than the Metrolink station serving RC). I suppose it would be feasible to extend the line a little further south to connect with Amtrak should there be demand (if they went to the Ontario station, then the Ontario airport could also be integrated into the service).
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- melling 3y agoDon’t 2 million people fly between Los Angeles and San Francisco every year?
- Rebelgecko 3y agoI think they're referring to Bakersfield and Merced
- nytesky 3y agoYes I thought I was replying to a thread about Bakersfield and Merced. LA to SFO would be worthwhile but probably much harder.
- eitally 3y agoThe ultimate plan is LA->SJ, which is a reasonable compromise and avoids a lot of the reasons why connecting to SF directly via HSR is impractical (it would essentially require a complete reworking of Caltrain to accommodate HSR trains, because there's no alternative anyone would accept to build another parallel rail line up the peninsula).
- Fatnino 3y agoThere used to be a rail line up the coast.
- stephen_g 2y agoNot sure what you mean - California HSR trains will go into San Francisco as part of Phase 1 (which is really the second phase, the Initial Operating Segment (IOS) I guess is like Phase 0). They're doing electrification and upgrades of Caltrain there to accommodate it.
- vishalontheline 3y agoAccording to: https://hsr.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Merced-to-Bakersfield-Factsheet-071123-A11Y.pdf https://hsr.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Merced-to-Bake... Between Sacramento and Merced, and LA and Bakersfield, there will be a "high speed rail bus service". For other parts there will be regional commuter train and bus services. Then, eventually, it'll become: https://hsr.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Business_Plan_Map.pdf https://hsr.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Business_Plan_...