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>Why is it funny? Homebrew is the de facto standard terminal packaging tool for macOS. It's funny because a multi-trillion dollar company can't be bothered to

>Why is it funny? Homebrew is the de facto standard terminal packaging tool for macOS. It's funny because a multi-trillion dollar company can't be bothered to release a native package manager or an official binary repository for their OS after decades of pleading from developers.

etse 3y ago
Well, without charging for it, right?
- 2muchcoffeeman 3y ago
  They should do it to become the de facto platform for programming.
astrange 3y ago
They did, they sponsored MacPorts. (And then Swift Package Manager.)
- deleted 3y ago
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Tagbert 3y ago
So you want them to Sherlock Homebrew?
- TillE 3y ago
  "Sherlocking" can be unfortunate for a developer, but it's odd to view it as an inherently bad thing. A package manager is a core OS feature, even Microsoft has WinGet now.
  - fragmede 3y ago
    it's odd to feel empathetic when someone has their livelihood taken from them?
  - Someone 3y ago
    > A package manager is a core OS feature It has become a core OS feature. Historically, you see the set of core OS features expand tremendously. Back in the 80’s drawing lines and circles wasn’t even a core OS feature (not on many home computers, and certainly not on early PCs), bit-mapped fonts were third part add-ons for a while, vector-based fonts were an Adobe add-on (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Type_Manager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Type_Manager), printer drivers were third party, etc. I think that’s natural. As lower layers become commodities (try making money selling an OS that only manages memory and processes), OS sellers have to add higher layer stuff to their products to make money on them. As to Sherlocking, big companies cannot do well there in the eyes of “the angry internet”: - don’t release feature F: “They don’t even support F out of the box. On the competitor’s product, you get that for free” - release a minimal implementation: “They have F, but it doesn’t do F1, F2, or F3” - release a fairly full implementation: “Sherlocking!” and/or nitpicking about their engineering choices.
randomdata 3y ago
They released "App Store" for the average Joe. We can all agree it is not suitable for power users, but at the same time what would power users gain over existing solutions if they were to introduce something?
- katbyte 3y ago
  You can brew install mas (I think) and then install/manage Mac store stuff via the cli pretty easily

etse 3y ago

Well, without charging for it, right?

2muchcoffeeman 3y ago
They should do it to become the de facto platform for programming.

astrange 3y ago

They did, they sponsored MacPorts. (And then Swift Package Manager.)

deleted 3y ago
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Tagbert 3y ago

So you want them to Sherlock Homebrew?

TillE 3y ago
"Sherlocking" can be unfortunate for a developer, but it's odd to view it as an inherently bad thing. A package manager is a core OS feature, even Microsoft has WinGet now.
- fragmede 3y ago
  it's odd to feel empathetic when someone has their livelihood taken from them?
- Someone 3y ago
  > A package manager is a core OS feature It has become a core OS feature. Historically, you see the set of core OS features expand tremendously. Back in the 80’s drawing lines and circles wasn’t even a core OS feature (not on many home computers, and certainly not on early PCs), bit-mapped fonts were third part add-ons for a while, vector-based fonts were an Adobe add-on (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Type_Manager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Type_Manager), printer drivers were third party, etc. I think that’s natural. As lower layers become commodities (try making money selling an OS that only manages memory and processes), OS sellers have to add higher layer stuff to their products to make money on them. As to Sherlocking, big companies cannot do well there in the eyes of “the angry internet”: - don’t release feature F: “They don’t even support F out of the box. On the competitor’s product, you get that for free” - release a minimal implementation: “They have F, but it doesn’t do F1, F2, or F3” - release a fairly full implementation: “Sherlocking!” and/or nitpicking about their engineering choices.

randomdata 3y ago

They released "App Store" for the average Joe. We can all agree it is not suitable for power users, but at the same time what would power users gain over existing solutions if they were to introduce something?

katbyte 3y ago
You can brew install mas (I think) and then install/manage Mac store stuff via the cli pretty easily