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If that were true, Tesla would have no problem offering CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility. After all, it’s just a protocol to let your phone use the displ

If that were true, Tesla would have no problem offering CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility. After all, it’s just a protocol to let your phone use the display (or part of it) as a second monitor.

hatsix 3y ago
it is not just that, and cheap decks with laggy carplay/AA unfortunately prove that some processing happens external to the phone
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  I assume every touchscreen monitor has its own processor, but that does not mean it is seeing any data other than the video stream. And I imagine that video stream data is not going elsewhere.
caf 3y ago
My theory is that Tesla want to strongly encourage people to use the in-built navigation that works very hard to ensure you don't run out of charge.
- hamandcheese 3y ago
  Or because they want to charge a subscription for "premium data" which nobody would buy if there was CarPlay.
  - dzhiurgis 3y ago
    You don't need premium data for online maps. Premium data is for sat maps, music and live camera views. Also at $10 per month it's actually quite cheap.
    - caf 3y ago
      Yeah it doesn't seem to be a profit centre, at the moment anyway.
    - prmoustache 3y ago
      Are you saying you can't listen to music in a Tesla without a subscription?
      - dzhiurgis 3y ago
        Bluetooth, radio, usb and using your phones hotspot is still an option (tho unrealistic given how shit iOS hotspot is)
        prmoustache 3y ago
        ah right, that is just internet connection for anything else but maps
      - hamandcheese 3y ago
        I'm saying I can't get live traffic on my Tesla maps without a subscription.
    - hnlmorg 3y ago
      Which is $10 per customer per month more than they’d get if everyone was using CarPlay / Android Auto. It’s been proven time and time again that vertical integration is a massive money earner and you can bet that if Tesla were to release a smartphone then support for that in their cars would be a software update that follows immediately after. But since there’s no plans for a phone, the next best thing is a subscription-based infotainment system.
      - dzhiurgis 3y ago
        Can carplay live stream video from hyundai’s cameras..?
        hnlmorg 3y ago
        We are talking about mapping and music. Not parking sensors
        hamandcheese 3y ago
        You mean that feature I've never used? I pay for premium data only because of Spotify and live traffic. Which I wouldn't have to do if it had CarPlay.
    - hamandcheese 3y ago
      It's also for live traffic.
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dzhiurgis 3y ago
Lol. Just a protocol that you need to get a blessing from Apple and pay them dearly.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  > pay them dearly. Source? I cannot find a single reference to Apple collecting fees, much less onerous fees, for implementing CarPlay functionality. Automakers don’t like CarPlay because it makes cars fungible. I like CarPlay because it makes cars fungible. Apple seems like it would give away CarPlay (at least for now) to broaden the reach of its platform.

hatsix 3y ago

it is not just that, and cheap decks with laggy carplay/AA unfortunately prove that some processing happens external to the phone

lotsofpulp 3y ago
I assume every touchscreen monitor has its own processor, but that does not mean it is seeing any data other than the video stream. And I imagine that video stream data is not going elsewhere.

caf 3y ago

My theory is that Tesla want to strongly encourage people to use the in-built navigation that works very hard to ensure you don't run out of charge.

hamandcheese 3y ago
Or because they want to charge a subscription for "premium data" which nobody would buy if there was CarPlay.
- dzhiurgis 3y ago
  You don't need premium data for online maps. Premium data is for sat maps, music and live camera views. Also at $10 per month it's actually quite cheap.
  - caf 3y ago
    Yeah it doesn't seem to be a profit centre, at the moment anyway.
  - prmoustache 3y ago
    Are you saying you can't listen to music in a Tesla without a subscription?
    - dzhiurgis 3y ago
      Bluetooth, radio, usb and using your phones hotspot is still an option (tho unrealistic given how shit iOS hotspot is)
      - prmoustache 3y ago
        ah right, that is just internet connection for anything else but maps
    - hamandcheese 3y ago
      I'm saying I can't get live traffic on my Tesla maps without a subscription.
  - hnlmorg 3y ago
    Which is $10 per customer per month more than they’d get if everyone was using CarPlay / Android Auto. It’s been proven time and time again that vertical integration is a massive money earner and you can bet that if Tesla were to release a smartphone then support for that in their cars would be a software update that follows immediately after. But since there’s no plans for a phone, the next best thing is a subscription-based infotainment system.
    - dzhiurgis 3y ago
      Can carplay live stream video from hyundai’s cameras..?
      - hnlmorg 3y ago
        We are talking about mapping and music. Not parking sensors
      - hamandcheese 3y ago
        You mean that feature I've never used? I pay for premium data only because of Spotify and live traffic. Which I wouldn't have to do if it had CarPlay.
  - hamandcheese 3y ago
    It's also for live traffic.
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dzhiurgis 3y ago

Lol. Just a protocol that you need to get a blessing from Apple and pay them dearly.

lotsofpulp 3y ago
> pay them dearly. Source? I cannot find a single reference to Apple collecting fees, much less onerous fees, for implementing CarPlay functionality. Automakers don’t like CarPlay because it makes cars fungible. I like CarPlay because it makes cars fungible. Apple seems like it would give away CarPlay (at least for now) to broaden the reach of its platform.