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Writing like coding requires logic/philosphical structure (not just from/part of programming language). Logically / philosophically strutured/thought out desig

Writing like coding requires logic/philosphical structure (not just from/part of programming language). Logically / philosophically strutured/thought out design tends toward better coding/programming results (have points of reference). At least in western world universities; logic/philosophy is what other disciplince (social, art, science & engineer) are off shoots of.

leereeves 2y ago
> philosophy is what other disciplines (social, art, science & engineer) are off shoots of Yeah, but the dark side of that is that in the modern world, "philosophy" is what is left after everything useful branched off into separate disciplines.
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- sargstuff 2y ago
  counter point: Boolean logic/heart of computation philosophy isn't what's left over after higher abstraction levels have evolved from binary -- still need associated 'rules/terms' ways to impliment/make use of logic & rules/terms. Just provides common reference/bridge between things that have abstracted rules/terms and implimentation/usage under different disciplines. Would hazzard to guess idea of requiring classical concept of philosopy would be to have common reference point(s) between engineering & non-engineering disciplines.
- strogonoff 2y ago
  It’s unfortunate that disciplines forget their roots in philosophy after branching out. For example, concepts such as “objective reality” or “absolute existence” are beyond the purview of natural sciences that deal in observable phenomena and models, yet people who grew up physics-first and right a good philosophical foundation tend to just believe that entities featured in those models (which, as philosophy would tell us, are all necessarily and to unknown degree incomplete and/or incorrect at any given point in time) is somehow the reference point and ground truth.
  - sargstuff 2y ago
    Is there really a relevant causation discussion on "oct 31 = dec 25" influence on Tim Burton writing "Nightmare before Christmas" without Tim Burton commentary? Does seem to incorporate both the P and NP parts in P=NP; but having a directors cut doesn't prove it.[1] [1] : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107688/alternateversions/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107688/alternateversions/

leereeves 2y ago

> philosophy is what other disciplines (social, art, science & engineer) are off shoots of Yeah, but the dark side of that is that in the modern world, "philosophy" is what is left after everything useful branched off into separate disciplines.

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sargstuff 2y ago
counter point: Boolean logic/heart of computation philosophy isn't what's left over after higher abstraction levels have evolved from binary -- still need associated 'rules/terms' ways to impliment/make use of logic & rules/terms. Just provides common reference/bridge between things that have abstracted rules/terms and implimentation/usage under different disciplines. Would hazzard to guess idea of requiring classical concept of philosopy would be to have common reference point(s) between engineering & non-engineering disciplines.
strogonoff 2y ago
It’s unfortunate that disciplines forget their roots in philosophy after branching out. For example, concepts such as “objective reality” or “absolute existence” are beyond the purview of natural sciences that deal in observable phenomena and models, yet people who grew up physics-first and right a good philosophical foundation tend to just believe that entities featured in those models (which, as philosophy would tell us, are all necessarily and to unknown degree incomplete and/or incorrect at any given point in time) is somehow the reference point and ground truth.
- sargstuff 2y ago
  Is there really a relevant causation discussion on "oct 31 = dec 25" influence on Tim Burton writing "Nightmare before Christmas" without Tim Burton commentary? Does seem to incorporate both the P and NP parts in P=NP; but having a directors cut doesn't prove it.[1] [1] : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107688/alternateversions/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107688/alternateversions/