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That’s because the news is bullshit. It’s apparently not a ban for all music, it’s a recommendation for _Chechen_ music from their ministry of culture.

by ein0p 3y ago

viraptor 3y ago
Have you got a source for that interpretation? The announcement this article references does not support it.
- ein0p 3y ago
  This seemed so obviously fake that I went and checked the primary sources: https://tass-ru.translate.goog/obschestvo/20533041/amp?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://tass-ru.translate.goog/obschestvo/20533041/amp?_x_tr...
  - viraptor 3y ago
    It's interesting, but I don't think it really confirms either interpretation. This link is about what Kadyrov says about the announcement. Not the announcement/rule itself. One click further leads to https://tass-ru.translate.goog/kultura/20461139?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://tass-ru.translate.goog/kultura/20461139?_x_tr_sl=ru&... > "He announced the final decision, agreed with the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov, that from now on all musical, vocal and choreographic works must correspond to a tempo of 80 to 116 beats per minute,” he wrote on his page on social networks. But again, it's all about commentary on something I can't find the actual primary source for.
    - ein0p 3y ago
      Kadyrov is the “primariest” source imaginable, since he basically runs Chechnya. If he says it’s for Chechen music only, that’s how it’s going to be. Seems like it was misinterpreted by Russian press first, and then uncritically picked up by the Western media.
      - 082349872349872 3y ago
        That's funny, at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39993936 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39993936 we came to the conclusion that it would not apply to Chechen music (specifically Lezginka, which I tend to clock at 120+)... Then again, the probable real conclusion here is: if you're on Kadyrov's bad side, better to never be in proximity to both boom boxes and high windows. (for our US readers: Kadyrov is what Erik Prince wishes he were)
        082349872349872 3y ago
        Just occurred to me: I don't think legislatures spend their times snarking each other, but we are in the post-Twitter age, so... What about Chechnya banning music at specific BPMs as a sarcastic reply (intentional or not) to the US banning social media under specific ownership?
kelnos 3y ago
A big problem with that is that there's Chechen music -- like, actual Chechen folk music, not Chechen-composed music that (o noes!) succumbed to Western influences -- that's outside the range. Even if this is just a "recommendation" and not an outright ban, this is still incredibly dumb.

That’s because the news is bullshit. It’s apparently not a ban for all music, it’s a recommendation for _Chechen_ music from their ministry of culture.

by ein0p 3y ago

That’s because the news is bullshit. It’s apparently not a ban for all music, it’s a recommendation for _Chechen_ music from their ministry of culture.

viraptor 3y ago

Have you got a source for that interpretation? The announcement this article references does not support it.

ein0p 3y ago
This seemed so obviously fake that I went and checked the primary sources: https://tass-ru.translate.goog/obschestvo/20533041/amp?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://tass-ru.translate.goog/obschestvo/20533041/amp?_x_tr...
- viraptor 3y ago
  It's interesting, but I don't think it really confirms either interpretation. This link is about what Kadyrov says about the announcement. Not the announcement/rule itself. One click further leads to https://tass-ru.translate.goog/kultura/20461139?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://tass-ru.translate.goog/kultura/20461139?_x_tr_sl=ru&... > "He announced the final decision, agreed with the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov, that from now on all musical, vocal and choreographic works must correspond to a tempo of 80 to 116 beats per minute,” he wrote on his page on social networks. But again, it's all about commentary on something I can't find the actual primary source for.
  - ein0p 3y ago
    Kadyrov is the “primariest” source imaginable, since he basically runs Chechnya. If he says it’s for Chechen music only, that’s how it’s going to be. Seems like it was misinterpreted by Russian press first, and then uncritically picked up by the Western media.
    - 082349872349872 3y ago
      That's funny, at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39993936 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39993936 we came to the conclusion that it would not apply to Chechen music (specifically Lezginka, which I tend to clock at 120+)... Then again, the probable real conclusion here is: if you're on Kadyrov's bad side, better to never be in proximity to both boom boxes and high windows. (for our US readers: Kadyrov is what Erik Prince wishes he were)
      - 082349872349872 3y ago
        Just occurred to me: I don't think legislatures spend their times snarking each other, but we are in the post-Twitter age, so... What about Chechnya banning music at specific BPMs as a sarcastic reply (intentional or not) to the US banning social media under specific ownership?

kelnos 3y ago

A big problem with that is that there's Chechen music -- like, actual Chechen folk music, not Chechen-composed music that (o noes!) succumbed to Western influences -- that's outside the range. Even if this is just a "recommendation" and not an outright ban, this is still incredibly dumb.