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GM's plan is to sell a subscription service that covers all the things you already pay for on your phone (maps, music streaming, etc). It's why they're killing
by babypuncher 3y ago
GM's plan is to sell a subscription service that covers all the things you already pay for on your phone (maps, music streaming, etc). It's why they're killing CarPlay, because they know that even if their service is good, nobody will pay $20/mo for shit they already get for free on their phones.
Basically, their goal in life is to be a worthless middleman who takes peoples money while providing no real value to society.
- jasondigitized 3y agoHow is GM a middleman when they are producing the product I am buying which is a car? If GM bundled OnStar with a top tier infotainment / navigation / ChatGpt / I’m hungry where do I eat app, I’ll pay for that as long as it’s reasonable and lets me know I’ll be taken care of if I crash and need assistance.
- eropple 3y agoMaybe for you. If it doesn't exactly mirror the stuff on my phone, though, it's distinctly worse than using my phone. If it doesn't start playing music from my phone when I turn the car on, it's distinctly worse than using my phone. If it doesn't act like my phone does today, it's distinctly worse than using my phone. For me, there is no room for GM to become a player here. I have friends' addresses, etc. in my iPhone's contacts and they show up on Maps. GM isn't going to do that, so GM isn't going to get my business. I'm starting to look for a new car right now, and this is a hard no. If it doesn't support CarPlay and Android Auto (both--I've used both in the last five years, and might switch back again to Android in the lifetime of my next car), it's outside my observable universe.
- lokar 3y agoI would never consider buying GM. I was, in the past, a UAW shop steward.
- hedora 3y agoI once bought a GM vehicle. Never again.
- shiroiushi 3y agoMy family had GM cars when I was a child, decades ago. Never would I seriously consider buying a GM.
- eropple 2y agoThat's fair! I've looked long and hard at the Chevy Bolt in the past, but I think other car models have surpassed it.
- lotsofpulp 3y agoWhy would you pay for that when your phone already does all of that and you always have it on you?
- hedora 3y agoThey are trying to be a middleman between you and the internet. It’s analogous to a TV and monitor manufacturer saying they are no longer providing non-wifi inputs, app side loading, or supporting screen casting from local devices. Then the manufacturer would charge a monthly fee for the monitor to keep working. Hopefully, next, the CEO acts surprised when reporting the resulting massive drop in shipments.
- briandear 3y agoGM doing top tier tech is a joke. Also, they monetize your car data.
- lokar 3y agoYou pay for maps on your phone?
- ThePowerOfFuet 3y agoEither you pay with your data (Google) or upfront for the phone (Apple). I use Organic Maps on GrapheneOS and add businesses I want which aren't there (hence I had to look them up in Google Maps in Firefox Focus, which is painful enough that I don't want to have to repeat it).
- babypuncher 3y agoYou pay for cell service on your phone, which lets you access things like Google/Apple maps, spotify streaming, etc. GM wants to charge for a separate internet service tied to your car, that still goes over the cellular networks, in order to access these exact same features in their head unit. It is completely redundant. CarPlay already offers a near perfect experience in this regard, without charging an extra monthly fee.
- what_ever 3y agoDoesn't Tesla do that as well?
- jdminhbg 3y agoNo, Tesla sells internet connectivity for $10/month.
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- hatsix 3y agoWhile Tesla does have a $10/m plan, you still get basic Internet without paying for it... Tesla's free is better than any other company's paid subscription. That said, $10 is far too much for what it is, should be $5.
- chgs 3y agoA Tesla costs $80k and lasts 10 years. Why are you saying $1200 for internet is too much and $600 isn’t? Why do they even bother charging - just bundle it in with the headline price. It’s a tiny portion of the revenue, nobody is going to think “oh that $87,345 Tesla is too much I’ll go for the $86,145 one”
- mavhc 3y agoTesla costs $30k https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview $29450 with tax incentive
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- delfinom 3y agoYea but that's the joke is they plan. Toyota should also plan to expand their manufacturing capacity to pickup GMs lost sales to anyone under the age of 60. Lol
- donw 3y agoToyota offering a V8 (both gas and diesel) in its trucks would change the market in a big way.
- hedora 3y agoI’m surprised Toyota doesn’t offer a hybrid pickup similar to Ford’s. I wish any manufacturer offered a 250-class electric truck with a basic trim line. They probably want to sell more cars per battery for now.
- 10u152 3y agoTundra Hybrid doesn't count?
- kortilla 3y agoNo, that’s a half ton class truck (f-150 comparable). A 250 class truck (f-250, 2500, etc) is a 3/4 ton class and is what you need if you want to tow >10k pounds while having basically any load in the truck.
- katbyte 3y agoTacoma and tundra both come in hybrid now