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Has anyone experienced FSD 12.3.5 yet? It's hard to distinguish the hype vs real experience on Twitter. How would it compare to the Waymo or Cruise taxi exper

by aantix 2y ago

Has anyone experienced FSD 12.3.5 yet? It's hard to distinguish the hype vs real experience on Twitter. How would it compare to the Waymo or Cruise taxi experience?

wilson919 2y ago
12.3.4 is pretty good. The pros are that I've seen very human behavior from it like speeding up to get through a yellow light and letting people merge when they have a turn signals on. It also slows down for speed bumps and avoids blocking 4 way stops if pedestrians are crossing in the far side. The bad is hard braking and acceleration at stop signs and there are just some situations where it waits too late to brake and then brakes too hard. Downloading 12.3.5 now to test it
mdeeks 2y ago
I just got a FSD trial of 12.3.4 on my Model Y. It's better than I expected, but still feels far from something that can fully autonomously drive. Freeway driving works really well and has for years. Street driving is hit and miss. So much that I basically turn it off unless I'm driving a known good path. It handles intersections, street lights, and stop signs just fine. It goes around cars blocking the road, waiting first for a clear path in oncoming traffic. On the bad side, it brakes REALLY hard a lot and accelerates REALLY hard off of stop signs. It often freaks out when pedestrians are near the side of the road. My car came to a rapid full stop because some bikers were standing looking at their phones about 6 feet from a crosswalk. Besides being jarring and annoying, it pissed off and scared the person behind me. The car wouldn't have moved if I didn't disengage FSD. It drove right towards a very low curb that suddenly appears in the roadway by my house. It's an old curb that sits maybe only 3 inches high but would definitely feel like a slam and maybe damage the tire if we hit it. I'm guessing it doesn't look enough like a normal curb to FSD There are a bunch of small experiences just like these. I disengage nearly every trip and often at least twice.
- jdminhbg 2y ago
  I'm also on the free trial, this is relatively close to my experience. It's phenomenal on the highway, but it's too "good" of a driver in town that it feels like you'd never get anywhere because you're the only one actually obeying traffic laws. > The car wouldn't have moved if I didn't disengage FSD. I didn't realize it at first, but you don't have to fully disengage if it's hesitant about going. You can just push the gas pedal and it'll move along the path it was planning on going.
  - bryanlarsen 2y ago
    The indicator stalk is also super helpful. Not only can you use it to tell it to change lanes or to to prevent it from doing so, you can change the route with it. It's a super impressive tech demo, but not worth $100/month IMO.
  - claar 2y ago
    Yes, exactly this - FSD is MUCH better if you occasionally override it with the accelerator pedal and don't let it be stupid timid. I keep reading bad reviews of people trying FSD for a day and not liking it because it didn't enter a roundabout quickly enough or slowed unexpectedly, which I agree is annoying, but I love that I can just hit the accelerator and FSD happily plays along.

by aantix 2y ago

Has anyone experienced FSD 12.3.5 yet? It's hard to distinguish the hype vs real experience on Twitter. How would it compare to the Waymo or Cruise taxi experience?

wilson919 2y ago

12.3.4 is pretty good. The pros are that I've seen very human behavior from it like speeding up to get through a yellow light and letting people merge when they have a turn signals on. It also slows down for speed bumps and avoids blocking 4 way stops if pedestrians are crossing in the far side. The bad is hard braking and acceleration at stop signs and there are just some situations where it waits too late to brake and then brakes too hard. Downloading 12.3.5 now to test it

mdeeks 2y ago

I just got a FSD trial of 12.3.4 on my Model Y. It's better than I expected, but still feels far from something that can fully autonomously drive. Freeway driving works really well and has for years. Street driving is hit and miss. So much that I basically turn it off unless I'm driving a known good path. It handles intersections, street lights, and stop signs just fine. It goes around cars blocking the road, waiting first for a clear path in oncoming traffic. On the bad side, it brakes REALLY hard a lot and accelerates REALLY hard off of stop signs. It often freaks out when pedestrians are near the side of the road. My car came to a rapid full stop because some bikers were standing looking at their phones about 6 feet from a crosswalk. Besides being jarring and annoying, it pissed off and scared the person behind me. The car wouldn't have moved if I didn't disengage FSD. It drove right towards a very low curb that suddenly appears in the roadway by my house. It's an old curb that sits maybe only 3 inches high but would definitely feel like a slam and maybe damage the tire if we hit it. I'm guessing it doesn't look enough like a normal curb to FSD There are a bunch of small experiences just like these. I disengage nearly every trip and often at least twice.

jdminhbg 2y ago
I'm also on the free trial, this is relatively close to my experience. It's phenomenal on the highway, but it's too "good" of a driver in town that it feels like you'd never get anywhere because you're the only one actually obeying traffic laws. > The car wouldn't have moved if I didn't disengage FSD. I didn't realize it at first, but you don't have to fully disengage if it's hesitant about going. You can just push the gas pedal and it'll move along the path it was planning on going.
- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  The indicator stalk is also super helpful. Not only can you use it to tell it to change lanes or to to prevent it from doing so, you can change the route with it. It's a super impressive tech demo, but not worth $100/month IMO.
- claar 2y ago
  Yes, exactly this - FSD is MUCH better if you occasionally override it with the accelerator pedal and don't let it be stupid timid. I keep reading bad reviews of people trying FSD for a day and not liking it because it didn't enter a roundabout quickly enough or slowed unexpectedly, which I agree is annoying, but I love that I can just hit the accelerator and FSD happily plays along.