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> no one has denied their existence But they have contested WWC's existence, in the sense of whether it ought to exist, in which case I have justified it by po

> no one has denied their existence But they have contested WWC's existence, in the sense of whether it ought to exist, in which case I have justified it by pointing out that it is qualitatively no different from any other similar group. > They are most definitely worthy of outrage considering they're size (backing) and far-left ideological alignment. I do not believe professional groups that advocate for more male participation in female-dominated occupations have any appreciable ideological alignment to them. They are size what now? > In preparation to tilt at windmills for sure. Strunk and White’s venerable Elements of Style warns that “When you use metaphor, do not mix it up. That is, don’t start by calling something a swordfish and end by calling it an hourglass.” > which makes its prescience all the more amazing. Yes, a children's fable about the hypocrisy of economic revolutionaries and governmental incompetence is truly analogous to social relations in a specific industry in modern day America. Astounding. One would be praising with faint damnation by saying at least you didn't namedrop 1984. > Please, if you're going to ever read only one book, at least read it enough times to get it right, and don't choose the book that every political science major reads as a freshman. I haven't even read de Tocqueville, nor am I a polisci major, so I do not know what you are talking about.

anonfordays 2y ago
>But they have contested WWC's existence, in the sense of whether it ought to exist I can hear the goal posts screeching from here. >in which case I have justified it by pointing out that it is qualitatively no different from any other similar group. Except you didn't point that out, as a matter of fact, it only weakened your case. A beat up dinghy and a superyacht are not "qualitatively no different". >I do not believe professional groups that advocate for more male participation in female-dominated occupations have any appreciable ideological alignment to them. Correct, this is a key difference. >Strunk and White’s venerable Elements of Style warns that “When you use metaphor, do not mix it up. That is, don’t start by calling something a swordfish and end by calling it an hourglass.” Glad that's not what happened there. Or were you pointing out that you confused motte and moat? Either way, swing and a miss. >Yes, a children's fable about the hypocrisy of economic revolutionaries You're almost there, so close. >Astounding. One would be praising with faint damnation by saying at least you didn't namedrop 1984. It's almost like the group that denounces [racism] came to power and corrected it with... More [racism], but new [racism], which is inexplicably moral, you know, exactly how Animal Farm ends. 1984 is practically a manual for these types.
- Apocryphon 2y ago
  > I can hear the goal posts screeching from here. Addressing a failure in reading comprehension is not moving goal posts. Also, goal posts cannot screech, as they are neither animal nor animatronic. > A beat up dinghy and a superyacht are not "qualitatively no different". They are quantitatively different, but ultimately, both are nautical vessels. > Correct, this is a key difference. I disagree. > Either way, swing and a miss. The Guardian and Observer style guide defines cliches as cliches Overused words and phrases to be avoided, some of which merit their own ignominious entry in this guide > You're almost there, so close. Then I will go back and regress so far so as to be in the furthest horizon, beyond your view. > you know, exactly how Animal Farm ends. 1984 is practically a manual for these types. Huxley was more prescient than Orwell, who was a socialist and fought for the red cause in Spain.
  - anonfordays 2y ago
    >Addressing a failure in reading comprehension is not moving goal posts. I addressed your failure indeed. To quote, "And yet, they exist. That's the point. These sorts of groups all exist in one fashion or another." No one has denied they exist. >Also, goal posts cannot screech, as they are neither animal nor animatronic. Wrong. Screeching is not limited to animals/animatronics [0]. >They are quantitatively different, but ultimately, both are nautical vessels. They are qualitatively different as one is an auxiliary vessel. >The Guardian and Observer style guide defines cliches as cliches Overused words and phrases to be avoided, some of which merit their own ignominious entry in this guide Immaterial. This is not The Guardian/Observer, nor am I a journalist at those newspapers. That's three strikes, you're out! So cliché! >Then I will go back and regress so far so as to be in the furthest horizon, beyond your view. It's so close there too. >Huxley was more prescient than Orewell Debatable, but the prescience of this quote cannot be understated: "The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats." >Orwell, who was a socialist and fought for the red cause in Spain. Which makes this all the more hilarious. Truly Poe's Law in action. [0] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/screeching https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/screechi...

anonfordays 2y ago

>But they have contested WWC's existence, in the sense of whether it ought to exist I can hear the goal posts screeching from here. >in which case I have justified it by pointing out that it is qualitatively no different from any other similar group. Except you didn't point that out, as a matter of fact, it only weakened your case. A beat up dinghy and a superyacht are not "qualitatively no different". >I do not believe professional groups that advocate for more male participation in female-dominated occupations have any appreciable ideological alignment to them. Correct, this is a key difference. >Strunk and White’s venerable Elements of Style warns that “When you use metaphor, do not mix it up. That is, don’t start by calling something a swordfish and end by calling it an hourglass.” Glad that's not what happened there. Or were you pointing out that you confused motte and moat? Either way, swing and a miss. >Yes, a children's fable about the hypocrisy of economic revolutionaries You're almost there, so close. >Astounding. One would be praising with faint damnation by saying at least you didn't namedrop 1984. It's almost like the group that denounces [racism] came to power and corrected it with... More [racism], but new [racism], which is inexplicably moral, you know, exactly how Animal Farm ends. 1984 is practically a manual for these types.

Apocryphon 2y ago
> I can hear the goal posts screeching from here. Addressing a failure in reading comprehension is not moving goal posts. Also, goal posts cannot screech, as they are neither animal nor animatronic. > A beat up dinghy and a superyacht are not "qualitatively no different". They are quantitatively different, but ultimately, both are nautical vessels. > Correct, this is a key difference. I disagree. > Either way, swing and a miss. The Guardian and Observer style guide defines cliches as cliches Overused words and phrases to be avoided, some of which merit their own ignominious entry in this guide > You're almost there, so close. Then I will go back and regress so far so as to be in the furthest horizon, beyond your view. > you know, exactly how Animal Farm ends. 1984 is practically a manual for these types. Huxley was more prescient than Orwell, who was a socialist and fought for the red cause in Spain.
- anonfordays 2y ago
  >Addressing a failure in reading comprehension is not moving goal posts. I addressed your failure indeed. To quote, "And yet, they exist. That's the point. These sorts of groups all exist in one fashion or another." No one has denied they exist. >Also, goal posts cannot screech, as they are neither animal nor animatronic. Wrong. Screeching is not limited to animals/animatronics [0]. >They are quantitatively different, but ultimately, both are nautical vessels. They are qualitatively different as one is an auxiliary vessel. >The Guardian and Observer style guide defines cliches as cliches Overused words and phrases to be avoided, some of which merit their own ignominious entry in this guide Immaterial. This is not The Guardian/Observer, nor am I a journalist at those newspapers. That's three strikes, you're out! So cliché! >Then I will go back and regress so far so as to be in the furthest horizon, beyond your view. It's so close there too. >Huxley was more prescient than Orewell Debatable, but the prescience of this quote cannot be understated: "The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats." >Orwell, who was a socialist and fought for the red cause in Spain. Which makes this all the more hilarious. Truly Poe's Law in action. [0] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/screeching https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/screechi...