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Back in the day I read that Eclipse was based on an IBM IDE for Smalltalk called VisualAge, which they ported to VisualAge for Java, which became Smalltalk. A

by vram22 2y ago

Back in the day I read that Eclipse was based on an IBM IDE for Smalltalk called VisualAge, which they ported to VisualAge for Java, which became Smalltalk. A while ago, so some details may be wrong.

kibibu 2y ago
VisualAge for Smalltalk came first. Smalltalk (70s) came long before both Java (90s) and Visual Age (80s).
- vram22 2y ago
  Yes, I noticed my error above, and corrected it, thanks to you, in a reply to myself.
igouy 2y ago
"… IBM VisualAge for Smalltalk and IBM VisualAge for Java. Both of these products were written in Smalltalk. The IBM VisualAge Micro Edition product was the first serious and actually quite successful experiment with writing the entire IDE in Java. Many concepts found in Eclipse have been tried out in that product already. However, for third parties, it proved difficult to extend the product with new components … A small team of experts set out to take the experiences of the previous years of designing and implementing development environments. The result was Eclipse, a platform designed from the ground up as an integration platform for development tools." FAQ Where did Eclipse come from? https://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_did_Eclipse_come_from%3F https://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_did_Eclipse_come_from%3F
- pjmlp 2y ago
  One of those experts, Erich Gamma, is the main VSCode architect.
  - vram22 2y ago
    Wow. One of the GoF guys, too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Gamma https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Gamma
vram22 2y ago
>VisualAge for Java, which became Smalltalk. Whoops! What a brain fart, or cosmic ray effect, or whatever :) I meant to write: >VisualAge for Java, which became Eclipse. It was still possible to edit and correct my previous comment, but since people had replied already, I decided to correct myself in a reply to my own comment above. Thanks, guys, for pointing out the mistake.

by vram22 2y ago

Back in the day I read that Eclipse was based on an IBM IDE for Smalltalk called VisualAge, which they ported to VisualAge for Java, which became Smalltalk. A while ago, so some details may be wrong.

kibibu 2y ago

VisualAge for Smalltalk came first. Smalltalk (70s) came long before both Java (90s) and Visual Age (80s).

vram22 2y ago
Yes, I noticed my error above, and corrected it, thanks to you, in a reply to myself.

igouy 2y ago

"… IBM VisualAge for Smalltalk and IBM VisualAge for Java. Both of these products were written in Smalltalk. The IBM VisualAge Micro Edition product was the first serious and actually quite successful experiment with writing the entire IDE in Java. Many concepts found in Eclipse have been tried out in that product already. However, for third parties, it proved difficult to extend the product with new components … A small team of experts set out to take the experiences of the previous years of designing and implementing development environments. The result was Eclipse, a platform designed from the ground up as an integration platform for development tools." FAQ Where did Eclipse come from? https://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_did_Eclipse_come_from%3F https://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_did_Eclipse_come_from%3F

pjmlp 2y ago
One of those experts, Erich Gamma, is the main VSCode architect.
- vram22 2y ago
  Wow. One of the GoF guys, too. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Gamma https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Gamma

vram22 2y ago

>VisualAge for Java, which became Smalltalk. Whoops! What a brain fart, or cosmic ray effect, or whatever :) I meant to write: >VisualAge for Java, which became Eclipse. It was still possible to edit and correct my previous comment, but since people had replied already, I decided to correct myself in a reply to my own comment above. Thanks, guys, for pointing out the mistake.