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What does Goldman Sachs want in a coder? For them to have studied philosophy
- fnordpiglet 3y agoI’d note the prior CTO of Goldman was a PhD in philosophy drop out.
- sevagh 3y agoThis should be backed up by GS hiring statistics only.
- euroderf 3y ago"Goldman Sachs: When we say that morality in finance is optional, we know what we're talking about."
- haburka 3y agoAmazing accidental perspective on how little the typical business person or journalist understands about programming and gen ai. You can see how they think the hard part of programming is writing code, which, of course, is false. The hard part is writing the correct code and maintaining it. I can’t wait until prompt engineering as a profession completely dies out. Its total vapor ware and its existence promotes problematic ideas about what AI is capable of
- stevetron 3y agoWell, my undergrad in CS required I take 2 classes in Philosophy. I never have directly used the material studied in those classes.
- credit_guy 3y agoGoldman Sachs does not look for coders who have studied philosophy. For the simple reason that Goldman Sachs is not a person, but a firm. It has 16000 engineers, which means many, many different groups. The "strats" are about 25% of that, and they are split into numerous groups too. Groups are made of people, and individual people have their own interviewing style. There might be a few people who are looking for coders who have studied philosophy, but it's not a general trend. Goldman actually does have some interviewing guidelines, you need to pass some internal training to even be allowed to interview candidates. And none of these guidelines mentions anything about philosophy. They are the typical HR interviewing guidelines that you can find anywhere: technical competence, problem solving, business acumen, ethical conduct, communication, initiative, collaboration, goes the extra mile, etc, etc.
- KingOfCoders 3y agoNice, I'm a coder and I have studied philosophy at university!
- gray_charger 3y agoVery first bullet > AI can now generate code faster, and often better, than humans. The author doesn't know what they're talking about. Feel free to skip this one.
- yogorenapan 3y agoDevil’s advocate: “than humans”, not professional programmers
- NVHacker 3y agoThey are certainly correct if you replace "humans" with "the average GS coder".
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- sbsudidmsbdjdn 3y agoDo these people really think writing code is the hard part? It’s knowing what to write, and AI may be a multiplier there, but that knowledge isn’t obtained from asking AI the right questions.
- sargstuff 3y agoWriting like coding requires logic/philosphical structure (not just from/part of programming language). Logically / philosophically strutured/thought out design tends toward better coding/programming results (have points of reference). At least in western world universities; logic/philosophy is what other disciplince (social, art, science & engineer) are off shoots of.
- leereeves 3y ago> philosophy is what other disciplines (social, art, science & engineer) are off shoots of Yeah, but the dark side of that is that in the modern world, "philosophy" is what is left after everything useful branched off into separate disciplines.
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- sargstuff 3y agocounter point: Boolean logic/heart of computation philosophy isn't what's left over after higher abstraction levels have evolved from binary -- still need associated 'rules/terms' ways to impliment/make use of logic & rules/terms. Just provides common reference/bridge between things that have abstracted rules/terms and implimentation/usage under different disciplines. Would hazzard to guess idea of requiring classical concept of philosopy would be to have common reference point(s) between engineering & non-engineering disciplines.
- strogonoff 3y ago