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Wasn't on my bingo card, that's for sure. Say what you will about big blue, they repeatedly seem to know who to acquire in order to buy themselves another 10 y
by sneed_chucker 2y ago
Wasn't on my bingo card, that's for sure.
Say what you will about big blue, they repeatedly seem to know who to acquire in order to buy themselves another 10 years of relevance.
- fishnchips 2y agoAren’t they always fighting the last war?
- Tuna-Fish 2y agoIBM is good at selling to large organizations. Large organizations are risk-averse, and prefer not to buy bleeding edge. IBM is pretty much institutionally specialized to sell what was hot last year (or last decade). People might make fun of this, but I'd like to note that there is a lot of very stable revenue in their business.
- fishnchips 2y agoMakes sense when you put it like this. In which case HCP may even be too new for them.
- ryandvm 2y agoI'd also point out that given just how bloody the bleeding edge of software development tooling is, only investing in things that have managed to stick around for a decade sounds pretty damn smart. Hell, React alone has been through 3 or 4 different paradigms in the last 10 years.
- ridruejo 2y agoGiven the stock price… it had to be someone. Same for Gitlab soon I guess
- apple4ever 2y agoI wonder if Microsoft grabs them. Sad, because GitLab was great for awhile. Then they stopped fixing bugs and started adding unneeded features, and made their pricing very expensive.
- imglorp 2y agoAnyone want to guess who? I'll start: Jetbrains?
- rickette 2y agoAtlassian
- Apocryphon 2y agoStill don't get why JetBrains hasn't been folded into the Alphabet family yet.
- monocasa 2y agoProbably were waiting to see how the company dealt with the sanctions on Russia first.
- Apocryphon 2y agoTrue, but I was expecting Google to have bought them like a decade ago!
- shagie 2y agoBrains are twisted: JetBrains closed its last legal entity in St. Petersburg - https://www-dp-ru.translate.goog/a/2023/03/01/Mozgi_svernulis?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://www-dp-ru.translate.goog/a/2023/03/01/Mozgi_svernuli...
- fishnchips 2y agoI’m failing to identify the benefit for the buyer here. What’s your reasoning?
- Apocryphon 2y agoKotlin and Android Studio are intrinsic to the Android development experience.
- microtonal 2y agoWell, they also have Red Hat, HashiCorp is right up the same alley.
- eraser215 2y agoWhich alley do you mean?
- robotnikman 2y agoThey are almost 100 years old which is an accomplishment. I wonder how many they have left. I bet a big chunk of that depends on companies still running AS/400 systems.
- jacques_chester 2y ago"Infrastructure", which includes z mainframes (called out by name) and I assume iSeries also (though not called out), is the smallest segment of IBM's revenue. See page 17: https://www.ibm.com/annualreport/assets/downloads/IBM_Annual_Report_2023.pdf https://www.ibm.com/annualreport/assets/downloads/IBM_Annual...
- tanjtanjtanj 2y agoMuch, if not most, of their consulting revenue is for mainframe support and much of their "hybrid cloud" is just hosting mainframes.
- vram22 2y agoMy semi-educated guess is that mainframes are a much bigger chunk still. (AS/400 is midrange. They are called something else now, I heard. Maybe I-series.) A lot of those indispensable infrastructure systems we all depend on, such as insurance, income tax, etc., run on mainframes, as they have for decades now. So don't diss big iron / Big Blue. I, for one, hope they have many years left, though I guess they could do with improving their corporate culture and business practices some.
- slowmovintarget 2y agoThose z-boxes can comfortably run 5000 instances of Linux as your very own virtual data center. Makes you wonder what inference on mainframe would look like, though you don't have GPUs.
- vram22 2y agoDo people use them for that, and is it cost-effective?
- pjmlp 2y agoJumped on the Java boat alongside Sun and Oracle, pivoting from Smalltalk into Java, contributions to the Linux kernel since 2000's, collaborations with Apple and Sony, helped porting Go toolchain into their micro and mainframes, acquired Red-Hat thus indirect contributions to all major Linux projects that Red-Hat works on,...
- hinkley 2y agoThey did a lot of different experiments with JIT as well, though I don’t know how much made it into other toolchains. In particular J9 was a sort of moral equivalent of PyPy. On the downside they are materially responsible/accomplices to the crimes that are J2EE and XML ALL THE THINGS.
- foobarian 2y agoI don't begrudge them XML even if I don't like how it looks. Json still doesn't have a matching schema story.
- pjmlp 2y agoJ2EE was created by Sun, based on a Objective-C framework. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Objects_Everywhere https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Objects_Everywhe... JSON and YAML keep trying to re-invent the nice tooling ecosystem from XML, badly.
- hinkley 2y agoSun Proposed J2EE (and made a mess of it) but what it is and what it has been had a lot of chefs. IBM had a lot to do with both XML and J2EE being used in the most Rube Goldbergian senses possible. They didn't invent XML either.
- pjmlp 2y agoLots of companies had a lot to to with J2EE and XML, they are both standards, designed by a consortium of companies. Sun, Oracle, Weblogic, IBM, Red-Hat, Rational, Microsoft, Pivotal, Apache Foundation,.... And if I have to chose between XML, endless annotations, anemic JSON, YAML spaghetti, I will take XML, thank you very much.
- nimbius 2y agoPlease file in a calm and orderly fashion toward the exits and remember: IBM killed Centos for profit. Terraform users can pick up their new alternative here: https://opentofu.org/ https://opentofu.org/ and for those of you with Vault, you can find your new alternative here: https://openbao.org/ https://openbao.org/
- otterley 2y ago> IBM killed Centos for profit. That process began happening long before the IBM acquisition when Red Hat hired Karanbir Singh (CentOS's maintainer) in 2014.
- vram22 2y agoWhat's the story behind that? IIRC, I saw something about it on HN at the time, but did not read it, being busy.
- bonzini 2y agoRed Hat had open source/community versions of their products, for example OpenShift Origin (now OKD) and RDO (for OpenStack). They wanted to use CentOS but it was not working well because release dates of CentOS were not predictable. So they acquihired CentOS, but in doing that they changed its target from "community of users [that don't want to pay for RHEL]" to "community of developers that target RHEL". CentOS Stream is much better (though not perfect) for the latter population. That said, there are many people using CentOS Stream in production (including myself).
- vram22 2y agoGot it, thanks.
- sethops1 2y agoDo you even realize OpenBao is an IBM initiative?
- hinkley 2y agoI’m not happy about this but my silver linings are: 1) At least Ellison doesn’t end up with it 2) Consul should tend to bring down the aggregate complexity of IBM solutions just a little bit.
- belter 2y agoTrue story...At one point in time, IBM bought so many companies, they produced internally an audio CD, sales reps were supposed to listen to on their way to customers visits. Reminding the name of the company, and explaining what each company was about...
- glenngillen 2y agoI find it hilarious how much this resonates with my time at AWS. Except it was for new service announcements, and video rather than a CD. History repeats.
- ugh123 2y agoThe internet deserves a ripped copy of that CD.
- belter 2y agoI will see if a friend of a friend still has it's copy ;-)