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Teachers are often wrong about the best ways to teach. See the popularity of "whole language" learning over Phonics for a good example in teaching fads being de

Teachers are often wrong about the best ways to teach. See the popularity of "whole language" learning over Phonics for a good example in teaching fads being detrimental to literacy across the board.

vkou 3y ago
And regionally, parents are wildly wrong about what to teach. Evolution, religion and its role in government, carbon dioxide, fundamentals of medicine, basic civics, recent history, how to navigate a world where gay people exist...
- sickofparadox 3y ago
  That's an interesting assertation to make out of hand, but I don't think the data backs it up.[1][2] [1]https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Info-Brief-2015-2.pdf https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Info... [2]https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1005657.pdf https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1005657.pdf
  - vkou 3y ago
    That data doesn't actually counter-indicate what I'm saying, for a myriad reasons. I'll name one obvious one: Homeschool parents are, at minimum, present in their child's education. Compare their numbers to public school parents who are also present in theirs. Here's another obvious one: Most parents who are wildly deluded about those subjects don't homeschool, they just complain (and regionally, vote in representatives who will apply those delusions to the curriculum).
bradfa 3y ago
Teachers often have very little say in what they are required to teach or how they are required to go about teaching it. Often times the state or other administrators dictate what topics must be taught and how said topics must be taught. Deviating from the plan handed down to the teachers is quite frowned upon. Good teachers DO try to morph their style and presentation to suit the students' needs, but there's only so much they can do given their resources and other required tasks assigned by administrators. The kids still need to pass the state mandated tests on the state mandated topics in order for the teacher to get a good performance review from the administration.
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Teachers are often wrong about the best ways to teach. See the popularity of "whole language" learning over Phonics for a good example in teaching fads being detrimental to literacy across the board.

vkou 3y ago

And regionally, parents are wildly wrong about what to teach. Evolution, religion and its role in government, carbon dioxide, fundamentals of medicine, basic civics, recent history, how to navigate a world where gay people exist...

sickofparadox 3y ago
That's an interesting assertation to make out of hand, but I don't think the data backs it up.[1][2] [1]https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Info-Brief-2015-2.pdf https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Info... [2]https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1005657.pdf https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1005657.pdf
- vkou 3y ago
  That data doesn't actually counter-indicate what I'm saying, for a myriad reasons. I'll name one obvious one: Homeschool parents are, at minimum, present in their child's education. Compare their numbers to public school parents who are also present in theirs. Here's another obvious one: Most parents who are wildly deluded about those subjects don't homeschool, they just complain (and regionally, vote in representatives who will apply those delusions to the curriculum).

bradfa 3y ago

Teachers often have very little say in what they are required to teach or how they are required to go about teaching it. Often times the state or other administrators dictate what topics must be taught and how said topics must be taught. Deviating from the plan handed down to the teachers is quite frowned upon. Good teachers DO try to morph their style and presentation to suit the students' needs, but there's only so much they can do given their resources and other required tasks assigned by administrators. The kids still need to pass the state mandated tests on the state mandated topics in order for the teacher to get a good performance review from the administration.

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