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In contrast, public libraries around the Philly area are essentially dead. Town libraries are so underfunded that their mortar presences are open only until 7

In contrast, public libraries around the Philly area are essentially dead. Town libraries are so underfunded that their mortar presences are open only until 7 PM M-Th, close at 5 F & Sa, and are closed Sundays. They have greatly reduced their paper book holdings and now rely almost entirely on ebooks, which number fewer than 2000, and interlibrary loans of any kind do not exist. In contrast, public libraries in Michigan are thriving (another place I know well). I have no idea why the difference is so stark. In my over 60 years, I've never lived anywhere so illiterate as Philly.

vl 2y ago
Libraries are funded from local taxes, this is why there is a difference.
- bumby 2y ago
  Are you implying the OP was over-sampling on wealthier Michigan neighborhoods? Because I read their quote as applying to Michigan as a whole, and there are certainly parts of Michigan that are poor enough to have strained local taxes.
  - vl 2y ago
    Not at all. I literally mean that libraries are funded by communities (i.e. private groups, towns, counties, states), and some communities chose to fund them lavishly and some not to fund them at all.
chrisBob 2y ago
Where in Michigan? I regularly visit libraries in Ann Arbor, and Whitmore Lake. Both have libraries that are a wonderful resource for the community, but the difference in funding is obvious.
maxsilver 2y ago
> public libraries in Michigan are thriving (another place I know well). I have no idea why the difference is so stark. I can't speak for Philly, but Michiganders have a long long-standing community tradition of fighting to defend our public libraries from an onslaught of various attacks. And while the quality of the library system can vary (based on location and local funding authority), Michiganders generally have majority support for public libraries as an institution, and pass successful votes for them regularly. (historic Library voting records) https://www.michigan.gov/libraryofmichigan/-/media/Project/Websites/libraryofmichigan/For-Libraries/Administration/Statistics/Michigan-Public-Library-Millage-Results-2010-to-February-2024-Working-MASTER.pdf?rev=0eb9fe8433ba4a9783268bc240545e7d https://www.michigan.gov/libraryofmichigan/-/media/Project/W... (be careful reading this, not every red/failing vote is bad -- for example, May 2023's red line is a success for that public library, that something bad did not pass)
treflop 2y ago
Haven't lived in Philly but I've been. It's one of those somewhat rare livable working class cities, no? With a pretty big DIY scene.

vl 2y ago

Libraries are funded from local taxes, this is why there is a difference.

bumby 2y ago
Are you implying the OP was over-sampling on wealthier Michigan neighborhoods? Because I read their quote as applying to Michigan as a whole, and there are certainly parts of Michigan that are poor enough to have strained local taxes.
- vl 2y ago
  Not at all. I literally mean that libraries are funded by communities (i.e. private groups, towns, counties, states), and some communities chose to fund them lavishly and some not to fund them at all.

chrisBob 2y ago

Where in Michigan? I regularly visit libraries in Ann Arbor, and Whitmore Lake. Both have libraries that are a wonderful resource for the community, but the difference in funding is obvious.

maxsilver 2y ago

> public libraries in Michigan are thriving (another place I know well). I have no idea why the difference is so stark. I can't speak for Philly, but Michiganders have a long long-standing community tradition of fighting to defend our public libraries from an onslaught of various attacks. And while the quality of the library system can vary (based on location and local funding authority), Michiganders generally have majority support for public libraries as an institution, and pass successful votes for them regularly. (historic Library voting records) https://www.michigan.gov/libraryofmichigan/-/media/Project/Websites/libraryofmichigan/For-Libraries/Administration/Statistics/Michigan-Public-Library-Millage-Results-2010-to-February-2024-Working-MASTER.pdf?rev=0eb9fe8433ba4a9783268bc240545e7d https://www.michigan.gov/libraryofmichigan/-/media/Project/W... (be careful reading this, not every red/failing vote is bad -- for example, May 2023's red line is a success for that public library, that something bad did not pass)

treflop 2y ago

Haven't lived in Philly but I've been. It's one of those somewhat rare livable working class cities, no? With a pretty big DIY scene.