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I wonder when the battery pack needs replacing. Is that counted? Got to cost a bundle.

manishsharan 3y ago
This is the big one. A timing belt change , new spark plugs etc on a ICE car would cost about CAD 3000 ~4000 for Honda. And then your engine is good for another 100000 km or so.
pbmonster 3y ago
5 figures, depending on model. The largest packs are around $40k. But Tesla claims 300k - 500k miles before the battery comes due for a replacement. Most of the very oldest Teslas haven't reached that mileage yet. The average drive certainly doesn't reach it in their first 10 years of owning their car.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  I can get a refurb 100kw pack for my Model S for ~$14k from Tesla. 2018, has ~125k miles on it, less than 10% degradation heavily Supercharged.
- _aavaa_ 3y ago
  I don't know how it varies in different parts of the world, but where I live 300k miles is a rustbucket that's one pothole away from the scrapyard.
- dzhiurgis 3y ago
  On _average_ they last enough. Problem is that sudden failure can happen at anytime, even at 161k miles or so. Sounds like something insurance companies (or government) should offer. Would cost extra $1 per customer, but would keep tons of drivers happy.
eagerpace 3y ago
At this points it's seeming like they function well enough to last the life of the chassis. You're not going to spend $10k to put a new engine in a 10 year old car either, it's simply not worth it. You deal with some bumps and bruises and squeaks and reduced efficiency.
- JoeAltmaier 3y ago
  Hm. Last time I replaced an ICE engine, it cost < $1000 Small car, common model. From the junkyard, but much newer than my toasted one. I know, not the same thing. I wonder why the comparison was made at all, I'm just following up.
  - briffle 3y ago
    My neighbors just spent $5k replacing the engine in their 2017 Honda Pilot, with another used engine, and the mechanic was a close friend who gave them a great deal on labor costs..
- ikekkdcjkfke 3y ago
  Lifetime cost of gas vs charging
  - JoeAltmaier 3y ago
    Not included in 'maintenance' I guess.
ricardobeat 3y ago
That only starts being a risk after the ten year mark, maybe longer. Supposedly it’s down to 8k-12k for the Tesla battery packs (+ labour).

This is the big one. A timing belt change , new spark plugs etc on a ICE car would cost about CAD 3000 ~4000 for Honda. And then your engine is good for another 100000 km or so.

pbmonster 3y ago

5 figures, depending on model. The largest packs are around $40k. But Tesla claims 300k - 500k miles before the battery comes due for a replacement. Most of the very oldest Teslas haven't reached that mileage yet. The average drive certainly doesn't reach it in their first 10 years of owning their car.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
I can get a refurb 100kw pack for my Model S for ~$14k from Tesla. 2018, has ~125k miles on it, less than 10% degradation heavily Supercharged.
_aavaa_ 3y ago
I don't know how it varies in different parts of the world, but where I live 300k miles is a rustbucket that's one pothole away from the scrapyard.
dzhiurgis 3y ago
On _average_ they last enough. Problem is that sudden failure can happen at anytime, even at 161k miles or so. Sounds like something insurance companies (or government) should offer. Would cost extra $1 per customer, but would keep tons of drivers happy.

eagerpace 3y ago

At this points it's seeming like they function well enough to last the life of the chassis. You're not going to spend $10k to put a new engine in a 10 year old car either, it's simply not worth it. You deal with some bumps and bruises and squeaks and reduced efficiency.

JoeAltmaier 3y ago
Hm. Last time I replaced an ICE engine, it cost < $1000 Small car, common model. From the junkyard, but much newer than my toasted one. I know, not the same thing. I wonder why the comparison was made at all, I'm just following up.
- briffle 3y ago
  My neighbors just spent $5k replacing the engine in their 2017 Honda Pilot, with another used engine, and the mechanic was a close friend who gave them a great deal on labor costs..
ikekkdcjkfke 3y ago
Lifetime cost of gas vs charging
- JoeAltmaier 3y ago
  Not included in 'maintenance' I guess.

ricardobeat 3y ago

That only starts being a risk after the ten year mark, maybe longer. Supposedly it’s down to 8k-12k for the Tesla battery packs (+ labour).