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Consistency throughout the user experience and, most importantly, consistency through time. Macos ui is largely frozen in 2002ish IOS is frozen in 2008ish Th

Consistency throughout the user experience and, most importantly, consistency through time. Macos ui is largely frozen in 2002ish IOS is frozen in 2008ish This is why blind people only ever use iOS. (Linux user myself)

itake 2y ago
Apple moved off skeuomorphism in 2013. I agree there haven’t been big changes since then except maybe the deep press.
- thsksbd 2y ago
  Someone who uses the word "skeuomorphism" is probably a domain expert and notices every little change. Most people you talk to dont notice any change until they pick up a device not updated for the better part of a decade
ThatMedicIsASpy 2y ago
I cannot align the 3 apps the person uses on the thumb side of the home screen and have the rest unused. I have no dedicated back button THIS IS THE WORST for a 98 year old with very shaky hands. Consistency? Everything is all over the place for different apps.
- rblatz 2y ago
  The back button is probably the biggest thing keeping me from an android. Every time I’m handed an android to look at something that stupid button gets triggered.
  - ThatMedicIsASpy 2y ago
    that is a thing you can disable for a long time
- antgiant 2y ago
  Sounds like (assistive access)[https://support.apple.com/guide/assistive-access-iphone/welcome/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/assistive-access-iphone/welc...] is what you want as it solves both of these. It gives full app placement control to you and an always on screen back button.
boxed 2y ago
> This is why blind people only ever use iOS. That's not why. It's because iOS has great features for the blind, and iOS developers care about accessibility and making good apps.
- thsksbd 2y ago
  Also. But if you're blind, I bet youd hate the UI you cant see and you've memorized changing under you.
  - boxed 2y ago
    That's the same for blind as seeing...
chimeracoder 2y ago
> Consistency throughout the user experience and, most importantly, consistency through time. > Macos ui is largely frozen in 2002ish > IOS is frozen in 2008ish This is verifiably extremely incorrect? Lots of things about the core UX of both platforms have changed since then. Heck, even turning an iPhone off isn't as simple as "press and hold the power button" anymore.
- thsksbd 2y ago
  Now do Windows. Circa 2002, so you're baseline is XP. Go through those UI changes and the change backs. Don't forget the detours! At one point (purportedly) MS had a phone and they made their desktop look like a phone UI.
thsksbd 2y ago
Heck, Ill double down. Go back to the late 80s and compare Mac GUI to window's. There are still important themes in the Mac UI that remain, specifically the menu bar at the top. I could get around System 1.0 even though Ive never touched a classic OS mac. Win 2.0? I grew up with pre-95 windows and Id be completely lost. Id go further back, but then Id be comparing a GUI to a TUI. (Which to be fair are superior to GUIs)

itake 2y ago

Apple moved off skeuomorphism in 2013. I agree there haven’t been big changes since then except maybe the deep press.

thsksbd 2y ago
Someone who uses the word "skeuomorphism" is probably a domain expert and notices every little change. Most people you talk to dont notice any change until they pick up a device not updated for the better part of a decade

ThatMedicIsASpy 2y ago

I cannot align the 3 apps the person uses on the thumb side of the home screen and have the rest unused. I have no dedicated back button THIS IS THE WORST for a 98 year old with very shaky hands. Consistency? Everything is all over the place for different apps.

rblatz 2y ago
The back button is probably the biggest thing keeping me from an android. Every time I’m handed an android to look at something that stupid button gets triggered.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 2y ago
  that is a thing you can disable for a long time
antgiant 2y ago
Sounds like (assistive access)[https://support.apple.com/guide/assistive-access-iphone/welcome/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/assistive-access-iphone/welc...] is what you want as it solves both of these. It gives full app placement control to you and an always on screen back button.

boxed 2y ago

> This is why blind people only ever use iOS. That's not why. It's because iOS has great features for the blind, and iOS developers care about accessibility and making good apps.

thsksbd 2y ago
Also. But if you're blind, I bet youd hate the UI you cant see and you've memorized changing under you.
- boxed 2y ago
  That's the same for blind as seeing...

chimeracoder 2y ago

> Consistency throughout the user experience and, most importantly, consistency through time. > Macos ui is largely frozen in 2002ish > IOS is frozen in 2008ish This is verifiably extremely incorrect? Lots of things about the core UX of both platforms have changed since then. Heck, even turning an iPhone off isn't as simple as "press and hold the power button" anymore.

thsksbd 2y ago
Now do Windows. Circa 2002, so you're baseline is XP. Go through those UI changes and the change backs. Don't forget the detours! At one point (purportedly) MS had a phone and they made their desktop look like a phone UI.

thsksbd 2y ago

Heck, Ill double down. Go back to the late 80s and compare Mac GUI to window's. There are still important themes in the Mac UI that remain, specifically the menu bar at the top. I could get around System 1.0 even though Ive never touched a classic OS mac. Win 2.0? I grew up with pre-95 windows and Id be completely lost. Id go further back, but then Id be comparing a GUI to a TUI. (Which to be fair are superior to GUIs)