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> If it was made industry standard back then, USB-C would have probably never come along or would have taken much much longer. USB-C is a clusterfuck of a conn
by bitwize 3y ago
> If it was made industry standard back then, USB-C would have probably never come along or would have taken much much longer.
USB-C is a clusterfuck of a connector, and I'm not just talking about the various voltages and how using the wrong cable can fry your equipment. I'm talking about the physical connector itself. See, the USB-C port has a shroud around the outside and a "tongue" in the middle where all the contacts are. The USB-C plug has a shroud which fits into the port's shroud, but inside the plug's shroud are all the contacts which align with the contacts on the tongue. This tongue is fragile, necessitating replacement of the whole port if it breaks or is otherwise damaged. If I am not very careful with my phone's USB-C connector, it can get flaky and make even charging (let alone data transfer) difficult and annoying within a year.
Do you want to see an example of a good design? Look at Apple's Lightning connector, where the fragile tongue is on the more easily replaceable plug, and the port is just the shroud. Meaning my wife just plugs or unplugs her iPhone all the time, never worrying about what kind of damage dirt or lint might cause if it gets into the port or whether inserting or removing the plug too hard might permanently harm the port. It Just Works, every time.
Mandating USB-C just made the connector situation worse for everybody. Mandating an open standard doesn't really help much if it's a shitty standard. It just squelches any improvements a company might make.
- 6510 3y agoI don't have an opinion on this. The female plug always holds the power and the male taps into it. Doing it the other way around is unusual, you get a naked male plug with power on it just dangling around.
- Brian_K_White 3y agoWhile true for clear one way connections, usbc is bi-directional or symmetrical. 1 Either side may provide power. 2 usbc power delivery requires a fancy communication and management chip, and there is no power until after a handshake has been negotiated. So in that case a lightning style cable could be ok. (besides, even with plain usb2, lightening already existed for years without a problem) But while lightning-style may be good, F lightening specifically. The design was good for the reasons stated. Put the weak points in the more disposable part of the system. But for standards purposes I am not interested in any good design that anyone owns. All in all, lightning is not good. If it's good but you can't use it, then it's not good.
- 6510 3y agoI cant help but think we are stuck with excuses not to have simple replaceable batteries.
- account42 3y agoMicroUSB was even worse though in my experience - I managed to break the charging port on ALL my MicroUSB phones after enough time but my USB C phones so far have not yet encountered that failure mode.