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Best of luck with the redesign. I recently started learning Python and finally realize what I've been missing for so many years. I'm not sure of the intended

by neovive 14y ago

Best of luck with the redesign. I recently started learning Python and finally realize what I've been missing for so many years. I'm not sure of the intended audience of python.org (new users vs. experienced), but as a brand new Python user, the current website is filled with lots of great information, but is a bit intimidating. I think the Python language really sells itself and it would be nice to see some simple examples on the homepage as is done on the NodeJS page (e.g. http://nodejs.org/ http://nodejs.org/). Reading through some of the posts on Guido van Rossum's blog was also very inspiring ("Python in the Scientific World", "The depth and breadth of Python"). It's great to see a BDFL so actively involved. There are so many great stories about how Python is used successfully across in so many industries and among well-known brands. It would be great to see more of this on the main page.

jnoller 14y ago
we actually put a lot of thought into the target audiences: http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#audiences http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#audienc... - and I concur, a frontpage without a language example, or slide show of examples is almost a non starter for me
- neovive 14y ago
  Excellent -- the "Potential users" summary fits me perfectly. Great work on the rfp. If you need any perspectives or feedback from a very new Python user as you move on in the process, feel free to send me a message. I would be more than willing help.
jinushaun 14y ago
The current python.org homepage is a mess geared towards developers that already know Python. Compare that with ruby-lang.org and nodejs.org, which both seem geared towards promoting adoption of the language by newbs. They're organised with a clear information hierarchy that makes it easy to find the download button, get started on tutorials and find docs. Python.org, on the other hand is a jumble of text. The download section is hard to find. The boxes in the right column are more prominent than the boxes in the left column, even though the content of the left column is arguably more important. The middle section is dominated by news that is, for all intents and purposes, worthless to me. There is no visual separation between when the description stops and the news section starts. Unlike nodejs.org, there is no shout-out to companies that are using Python or popular Python libraries, etc. The homepage needs to answer the 5 W's: who is using Python, what is Python, where can I download it, when is the next release, and why should I learn Python? And don't forgot how: How can I get started? This is basic information design.

by neovive 14y ago

jnoller 14y ago

we actually put a lot of thought into the target audiences: http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#audiences http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#audienc... - and I concur, a frontpage without a language example, or slide show of examples is almost a non starter for me

neovive 14y ago
Excellent -- the "Potential users" summary fits me perfectly. Great work on the rfp. If you need any perspectives or feedback from a very new Python user as you move on in the process, feel free to send me a message. I would be more than willing help.

jinushaun 14y ago

The current python.org homepage is a mess geared towards developers that already know Python. Compare that with ruby-lang.org and nodejs.org, which both seem geared towards promoting adoption of the language by newbs. They're organised with a clear information hierarchy that makes it easy to find the download button, get started on tutorials and find docs. Python.org, on the other hand is a jumble of text. The download section is hard to find. The boxes in the right column are more prominent than the boxes in the left column, even though the content of the left column is arguably more important. The middle section is dominated by news that is, for all intents and purposes, worthless to me. There is no visual separation between when the description stops and the news section starts. Unlike nodejs.org, there is no shout-out to companies that are using Python or popular Python libraries, etc. The homepage needs to answer the 5 W's: who is using Python, what is Python, where can I download it, when is the next release, and why should I learn Python? And don't forgot how: How can I get started? This is basic information design.