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I agree with the categorization, but have to also agree with Musk that it's not tenable for a single country to be able to censor a piece of content for the ent

I agree with the categorization, but have to also agree with Musk that it's not tenable for a single country to be able to censor a piece of content for the entire world.

hkwerf 3y ago
Whether you approve of this censoring or not, it is law within Australia. If in a conjunction of services a loophole emerges, the censor needs to find someone to eliminate that loophole. Now, Australia can either prohibit encrypted connections abroad or ask X to censor one piece of content that nobody in their right mind should want to see. What would do more harm to free speech? The quote "a bloke who’s chosen ego and showing violence over common sense" isn't too unfitting.
- theGeatZhopa 3y ago
  I would have just removed it. What else is there to discuss. Otherwise X will become the new steak & cheese of our time. But it's still an interesting topic. I would like to bring in a different example: Porn platforms and EU regulations for online child safety. So xhamster, youp... and xvideoz are mandated to have an age verification. If I would be one of them, I couldn't care less. Ok, I would check it first how much it will cost me in case of doing it and in cases of European sanctions.. if it's not my all, I wouldn't comply to. Why should X comply to Australia? They can try to ban it, but they won't - to much of the very same politicians are using X actively :) So I see no danger for X in not complying. That's international way of business doing.
rickdeckard 3y ago
The whole situation wouldn't have happened if the posting of "the alleged stabbing of Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel" would violate Twitter's terms of service. Since it obviously doesn't, these situations will continue to happen. Just because somewhere in the world there are people who have no strong relation to a person in some violent content, in one country it might be an important figure making the content carry much more weight. Looking forward to see how this service is supposed to become the "everything app" including financial services, if it's already failing at such basic compliance steps...
- raverbashing 3y ago
  It's not "alleged" if the event happened and the video purports it
  - rickdeckard 3y ago
    Beside of the fact that I was quoting the article (!), that's the criteria the video should meet to violate the terms of a service (I don't care if some authority has confirmed that a person was actually stabbed, it should be sufficient to be removed for allegedly showing that event)

I agree with the categorization, but have to also agree with Musk that it's not tenable for a single country to be able to censor a piece of content for the entire world.

hkwerf 3y ago

Whether you approve of this censoring or not, it is law within Australia. If in a conjunction of services a loophole emerges, the censor needs to find someone to eliminate that loophole. Now, Australia can either prohibit encrypted connections abroad or ask X to censor one piece of content that nobody in their right mind should want to see. What would do more harm to free speech? The quote "a bloke who’s chosen ego and showing violence over common sense" isn't too unfitting.

theGeatZhopa 3y ago
I would have just removed it. What else is there to discuss. Otherwise X will become the new steak & cheese of our time. But it's still an interesting topic. I would like to bring in a different example: Porn platforms and EU regulations for online child safety. So xhamster, youp... and xvideoz are mandated to have an age verification. If I would be one of them, I couldn't care less. Ok, I would check it first how much it will cost me in case of doing it and in cases of European sanctions.. if it's not my all, I wouldn't comply to. Why should X comply to Australia? They can try to ban it, but they won't - to much of the very same politicians are using X actively :) So I see no danger for X in not complying. That's international way of business doing.

rickdeckard 3y ago

The whole situation wouldn't have happened if the posting of "the alleged stabbing of Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel" would violate Twitter's terms of service. Since it obviously doesn't, these situations will continue to happen. Just because somewhere in the world there are people who have no strong relation to a person in some violent content, in one country it might be an important figure making the content carry much more weight. Looking forward to see how this service is supposed to become the "everything app" including financial services, if it's already failing at such basic compliance steps...

raverbashing 3y ago
It's not "alleged" if the event happened and the video purports it
- rickdeckard 3y ago
  Beside of the fact that I was quoting the article (!), that's the criteria the video should meet to violate the terms of a service (I don't care if some authority has confirmed that a person was actually stabbed, it should be sufficient to be removed for allegedly showing that event)