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A question, out of curiosity and not hostile in any way: what's wrong with the current one?

by pm 14y ago

zalew 14y ago
http://grokcode.com/746/dear-python-why-are-you-so-ugly/ http://grokcode.com/746/dear-python-why-are-you-so-ugly/
jnoller 14y ago
See: http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#purpose http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#purpose and http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#current-issues http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#current... - we outlined, as unbiased as possible, what we feel is fundamentally broken with the existing site.
- pm 14y ago
  Indeed, I just read that, so I will follow up further. Is this predicated on feedback you've received or more on what the board feels is appropriate?
  - jnoller 14y ago
    Both, actually - we have some real designers on the team to help examine submissions, as well as people versed in IA/UX and accessibility. We (the board) have gotten lots of feedback over the years, and really want to make something more accessible, welcoming and modern. The team vetting the designs is not 100% board members, intentionally so - as I said, we have domain experts as well as psf members, it's a small team to keep the noise down, but the goals and thoughts are outlined in the RFP as much as possible.
    - scoot 14y ago
      "we have some real designers on the team" Problem solved!
      - jnoller 14y ago
        Well, not really :) There's a difference between having designers, accessibility pros and others able to review the proposals and those that have the time to do the work. All of us are volunteers, and our time is limited.
    - deleted 14y ago
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briancurtin 14y ago
I'm currently "in charge" of posting most of the PSF related updates, like meeting minutes and resolutions. It's only a once-a-month thing, but it's a huge pain in the ass. To do this, I hop over to my SVN checkout of the site, make a change, build it locally, then `svn ci` my changes and hope they build on the real site and hope we both have the same versions of everything. I'm currently writing up a doc for a non-techie to take over that task and the steps to go from a clean machine to a functioning system that can make even simple typo fixes are barbaric.

A question, out of curiosity and not hostile in any way: what's wrong with the current one?

by pm 14y ago

A question, out of curiosity and not hostile in any way: what's wrong with the current one?

zalew 14y ago

http://grokcode.com/746/dear-python-why-are-you-so-ugly/ http://grokcode.com/746/dear-python-why-are-you-so-ugly/

jnoller 14y ago

See: http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#purpose http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#purpose and http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#current-issues http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/#current... - we outlined, as unbiased as possible, what we feel is fundamentally broken with the existing site.

pm 14y ago
Indeed, I just read that, so I will follow up further. Is this predicated on feedback you've received or more on what the board feels is appropriate?
- jnoller 14y ago
  Both, actually - we have some real designers on the team to help examine submissions, as well as people versed in IA/UX and accessibility. We (the board) have gotten lots of feedback over the years, and really want to make something more accessible, welcoming and modern. The team vetting the designs is not 100% board members, intentionally so - as I said, we have domain experts as well as psf members, it's a small team to keep the noise down, but the goals and thoughts are outlined in the RFP as much as possible.
  - scoot 14y ago
    "we have some real designers on the team" Problem solved!
    - jnoller 14y ago
      Well, not really :) There's a difference between having designers, accessibility pros and others able to review the proposals and those that have the time to do the work. All of us are volunteers, and our time is limited.
  - deleted 14y ago
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briancurtin 14y ago

I'm currently "in charge" of posting most of the PSF related updates, like meeting minutes and resolutions. It's only a once-a-month thing, but it's a huge pain in the ass. To do this, I hop over to my SVN checkout of the site, make a change, build it locally, then `svn ci` my changes and hope they build on the real site and hope we both have the same versions of everything. I'm currently writing up a doc for a non-techie to take over that task and the steps to go from a clean machine to a functioning system that can make even simple typo fixes are barbaric.