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Why is the USA sanctioning the citizens of North Korea? It's not like theyre happy about a dictator running the country doing international crazy stuff and opp

Why is the USA sanctioning the citizens of North Korea? It's not like theyre happy about a dictator running the country doing international crazy stuff and oppressing them. I feel like we should be supporting any capitalistic effort they make so that they can build up resources to combat their dictator from within.

VS1999 3y ago
This is normal behavior. We feed our allies and starve our enemies.
- unobatbayar 3y ago
  More like invading, and starving innocent countries under pretext. The enemies are consuming more than ever before in history.
npteljes 3y ago
That's one of the approaches indeed. I think it has merit, since trade relations create dependency, and dependency can be leveraged to enact change in the other's behavior. At the end of the day though, politics is complex, and it's also tied to the people who participate in it. So while many people can suffer as result of a systemic change, the people who brought that to action might have different incentives, might not had the foresight, might have weighed the pros and cons and calculated with it, might sacrifice short-term good for a longer good... might be corrupt even. TL;DR it's complicated, and it probably has an official, and a real reason as well.
chiggsy 3y ago
Recent American efforts at regime change have fared poorly in hindsight. Attempted during the fall of the USSR, led directly to the oligarchs, and eventually Putin. Deposing Saddam left destroyed a middle class secular nation, who cheerfully began the ethnic cleansing, so that Iraq is now Kurds, Sunni and majority Shiites, none and turned Iran into a regional power by eliminating Iraq, as well as Afghanistan. Our man Musharraf, a loyal ally? Ditched him too, and the ISI showed its gratitude by rearming the Taliban. We got Gaddafi! Turns out he was burying enough people migrating from Africa to be a firm deterrent. Those people flooded into Europe, and the liberal democracies we allegedly want to nourish in other lands were pushed to the far right. Now Germany is beginning to arm itself, and France is following. Japan also, which will agitate the Koreas and China greatly. So the risk here is replacing the Pax Americana, fantastically lucrative for American by the way, with the spectre of proliferation, which the Pax had blocked fairly successfully. One wonders where (ugh) Kissinger's Realpolitik would have led us. Regardless, what we do know is that the Norks are hardly pro-american after years of indoctrination. >It's not like theyr'e happy about a dictator running the country doing international crazy stuff and oppressing them. As are we. It'd be way worse too if not for The Leader's clearsighted vision in acquiring nuclear capability, against our best efforts.

VS1999 3y ago

This is normal behavior. We feed our allies and starve our enemies.

unobatbayar 3y ago
More like invading, and starving innocent countries under pretext. The enemies are consuming more than ever before in history.

npteljes 3y ago

That's one of the approaches indeed. I think it has merit, since trade relations create dependency, and dependency can be leveraged to enact change in the other's behavior. At the end of the day though, politics is complex, and it's also tied to the people who participate in it. So while many people can suffer as result of a systemic change, the people who brought that to action might have different incentives, might not had the foresight, might have weighed the pros and cons and calculated with it, might sacrifice short-term good for a longer good... might be corrupt even. TL;DR it's complicated, and it probably has an official, and a real reason as well.

chiggsy 3y ago

Recent American efforts at regime change have fared poorly in hindsight. Attempted during the fall of the USSR, led directly to the oligarchs, and eventually Putin. Deposing Saddam left destroyed a middle class secular nation, who cheerfully began the ethnic cleansing, so that Iraq is now Kurds, Sunni and majority Shiites, none and turned Iran into a regional power by eliminating Iraq, as well as Afghanistan. Our man Musharraf, a loyal ally? Ditched him too, and the ISI showed its gratitude by rearming the Taliban. We got Gaddafi! Turns out he was burying enough people migrating from Africa to be a firm deterrent. Those people flooded into Europe, and the liberal democracies we allegedly want to nourish in other lands were pushed to the far right. Now Germany is beginning to arm itself, and France is following. Japan also, which will agitate the Koreas and China greatly. So the risk here is replacing the Pax Americana, fantastically lucrative for American by the way, with the spectre of proliferation, which the Pax had blocked fairly successfully. One wonders where (ugh) Kissinger's Realpolitik would have led us. Regardless, what we do know is that the Norks are hardly pro-american after years of indoctrination. >It's not like theyr'e happy about a dictator running the country doing international crazy stuff and oppressing them. As are we. It'd be way worse too if not for The Leader's clearsighted vision in acquiring nuclear capability, against our best efforts.