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I would really love to see proper educational content from Meta but i bet this is not were the 'next money thing' is. Imagine a catalog of proper real life ski

I would really love to see proper educational content from Meta but i bet this is not were the 'next money thing' is. Imagine a catalog of proper real life skills you can actually train reasonable good: - cooking - soldering - welding - Tons of woodworking things - ... You could also go to a lot of makers of tools and offer them to digitalize their products for them so someone can actually exercise with a cheap to super high end machine like specific CNCs or table saws etc.

OJFord 2y ago
Where would that fit in between watching others do it on YouTube for entertainment, and doing it for real where you can hold (or eat) the result at the end?
- graypegg 2y ago
  More hassle than a YouTube video, which is already more hassle than an article, but considering we’re talking about mixed reality, the ability to do the soldering, next to a detailed 3D model of exactly what you should be doing, in your line of sight, is a big selling point to me.
- slyn 2y ago
  It seems one of the primary tradeoffs in edutainment is between actually learnable teaching and “content porn” where you sub content with food, cars, tech, etc. When I think of truly learnable cooking videos the first thing that comes to mind is Kenji’s POV cooking videos / streams. Seems like something that could be relatively adaptable to a AR / MR format in a way that would differentiate it from other (still valid) content like the relatively educational food porn from Alex / @FrenchGuyCooking.
  - crmd 2y ago
    I'm actually making a version of Kenji's macaroni and cheese (except with shredded baby back rib meat added) for lunch as we speak! His channel is great. I would also be interested in a Chef Jean Pierre simulator, where you learn classic French recipes in a subtly deranged metaverse with a butter-based economy.
- TeMPOraL 2y ago
  As cheap to perform in as YouTube video, almost as vivid as the real thing, but again with most of the bullshit ("reality has a lot of detail") removed, just like with a YouTube video. Ideally, it would be suitable for experimenting with something you might want to then try out for real, but which would be too risky (time, money, embarrassment) to start with for real.
- inopinatus 2y ago
  That would be Ender's Game. Please don't eat the egg, though.
- lvspiff 2y ago
  This the gap that the porn websites will need to figure out how to fill for it to be a success.
- EVyesnoyesnoyes 2y ago
  Training critical steps before actually doing it. If its good enough, you can train cutting a 1000 onions without cutting 1000 onions. With complex machines, you can learn how to control them and than focus on actually using them instead of first learning were all the buttons are.
graypegg 2y ago
I really want some good VR train sims. It’s vaguely educational! A standalone quest train sim would be an instant buy for me. Probably not for many other people.
- stetrain 2y ago
  Derail Valley is a good one on Steam. Obviously that isn't standalone but it works pretty well with SteamVR streamed to a headset.
- sph 2y ago
  I used to play Derail Valley on Steam, which has optional VR support. https://store.steampowered.com/app/588030/Derail_Valley/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/588030/Derail_Valley/ But I agree with the sentiment. Sim games are the killer app of VR and I just want more sims. Where's my Das Boot simulator?
  - graypegg 2y ago
    Oh damn! I'll take a look! Thanks!!
  - haiku2077 2y ago
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/552080/IronWolf_VR/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/552080/IronWolf_VR/
    - sph 2y ago
      Time to hook up my Quest 3 to my PC. Cheers
jasonpeacock 2y ago
Virtual welding training is already a thing: https://www.lincolnelectric.com/en/education/training-programs/education-products/welding-training-systems/virtual-trainers https://www.lincolnelectric.com/en/education/training-progra... https://www.fronius.com/en/welding-technology/our-expertise/welding-education/virtual-welding https://www.fronius.com/en/welding-technology/our-expertise/...
- EVyesnoyesnoyes 2y ago
  yeah but not mainstream and it needs accessories and is probably more for teaching schools. I would love to see all of this in a free/paid marketplace and with a basic learning progress framework behind it.
danavar 2y ago
A previous company I worked at was using mixed reality years ago (>4) to train manufacturing operators on manufacturing processes. It ended up looking like a simulated workbench with low-detail models of CAD parts that needed to be assembled - it was pretty cool. Engineering companies are very ready for this technology.
- lagniappe 2y ago
  A local school here trains nurses in a VR environment that is situated inside a fully built out wing of a hospital. The headsets come down from the ceiling, all the equipment is real, but there are dummies in the beds, and some observation screens for others who supervise.
abraxas 2y ago
Yeah, we could call that the... Job Simulator ;)
paxys 2y ago
Why would you want to see it "from Meta"? There's no way a single company, that isn't even in the education business, can product that kind of content and keep it up to date. Meta's play is the right one – make an OS and software platform and let people build whatever they want on it.
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yunohn 2y ago
Coincidentally, I saw Meta ads plastered all over London today - showcasing a welder who claims she practiced/learned welding with a Meta Oculus sitting at home.

OJFord 2y ago

Where would that fit in between watching others do it on YouTube for entertainment, and doing it for real where you can hold (or eat) the result at the end?

graypegg 2y ago
More hassle than a YouTube video, which is already more hassle than an article, but considering we’re talking about mixed reality, the ability to do the soldering, next to a detailed 3D model of exactly what you should be doing, in your line of sight, is a big selling point to me.
slyn 2y ago
It seems one of the primary tradeoffs in edutainment is between actually learnable teaching and “content porn” where you sub content with food, cars, tech, etc. When I think of truly learnable cooking videos the first thing that comes to mind is Kenji’s POV cooking videos / streams. Seems like something that could be relatively adaptable to a AR / MR format in a way that would differentiate it from other (still valid) content like the relatively educational food porn from Alex / @FrenchGuyCooking.
- crmd 2y ago
  I'm actually making a version of Kenji's macaroni and cheese (except with shredded baby back rib meat added) for lunch as we speak! His channel is great. I would also be interested in a Chef Jean Pierre simulator, where you learn classic French recipes in a subtly deranged metaverse with a butter-based economy.
TeMPOraL 2y ago
As cheap to perform in as YouTube video, almost as vivid as the real thing, but again with most of the bullshit ("reality has a lot of detail") removed, just like with a YouTube video. Ideally, it would be suitable for experimenting with something you might want to then try out for real, but which would be too risky (time, money, embarrassment) to start with for real.
inopinatus 2y ago
That would be Ender's Game. Please don't eat the egg, though.
lvspiff 2y ago
This the gap that the porn websites will need to figure out how to fill for it to be a success.
EVyesnoyesnoyes 2y ago
Training critical steps before actually doing it. If its good enough, you can train cutting a 1000 onions without cutting 1000 onions. With complex machines, you can learn how to control them and than focus on actually using them instead of first learning were all the buttons are.

graypegg 2y ago

I really want some good VR train sims. It’s vaguely educational! A standalone quest train sim would be an instant buy for me. Probably not for many other people.

stetrain 2y ago
Derail Valley is a good one on Steam. Obviously that isn't standalone but it works pretty well with SteamVR streamed to a headset.
sph 2y ago
I used to play Derail Valley on Steam, which has optional VR support. https://store.steampowered.com/app/588030/Derail_Valley/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/588030/Derail_Valley/ But I agree with the sentiment. Sim games are the killer app of VR and I just want more sims. Where's my Das Boot simulator?
- graypegg 2y ago
  Oh damn! I'll take a look! Thanks!!
- haiku2077 2y ago
  https://store.steampowered.com/app/552080/IronWolf_VR/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/552080/IronWolf_VR/
  - sph 2y ago
    Time to hook up my Quest 3 to my PC. Cheers

jasonpeacock 2y ago

Virtual welding training is already a thing: https://www.lincolnelectric.com/en/education/training-programs/education-products/welding-training-systems/virtual-trainers https://www.lincolnelectric.com/en/education/training-progra... https://www.fronius.com/en/welding-technology/our-expertise/welding-education/virtual-welding https://www.fronius.com/en/welding-technology/our-expertise/...

EVyesnoyesnoyes 2y ago
yeah but not mainstream and it needs accessories and is probably more for teaching schools. I would love to see all of this in a free/paid marketplace and with a basic learning progress framework behind it.

danavar 2y ago

A previous company I worked at was using mixed reality years ago (>4) to train manufacturing operators on manufacturing processes. It ended up looking like a simulated workbench with low-detail models of CAD parts that needed to be assembled - it was pretty cool. Engineering companies are very ready for this technology.

lagniappe 2y ago
A local school here trains nurses in a VR environment that is situated inside a fully built out wing of a hospital. The headsets come down from the ceiling, all the equipment is real, but there are dummies in the beds, and some observation screens for others who supervise.

abraxas 2y ago

Yeah, we could call that the... Job Simulator ;)

paxys 2y ago

Why would you want to see it "from Meta"? There's no way a single company, that isn't even in the education business, can product that kind of content and keep it up to date. Meta's play is the right one – make an OS and software platform and let people build whatever they want on it.

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yunohn 2y ago

Coincidentally, I saw Meta ads plastered all over London today - showcasing a welder who claims she practiced/learned welding with a Meta Oculus sitting at home.