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What may really blow their mind is that there are open source tools that cost even less. Zoho is a good choice though, their CRM was not the best but got the jo

What may really blow their mind is that there are open source tools that cost even less. Zoho is a good choice though, their CRM was not the best but got the job done. Has a good API. Haven’t tried their other tools like docs or mail.

slrainka 2y ago
What are some of the open source/low cost email options that don’t have to deal with the headache of email deliverability, black list management etc.
- patrickhogan1 2y ago
  I gave Zoho a compliment, not sure why there is so much defensiveness. You are right - open source requires more work. My response related to open source was responding to the article's tone that it was surprising that anything could be cheaper than Google or Microsoft :) Which is silly.
  - dartharva 2y ago
    How on earth is that comment defensive?
    - patrickhogan1 2y ago
      Good point. I have been up way too long. I re-read the question now as just wanting alternatives. I read the question earlier about email deliverability and black list management as being rhetorical in that those services are usually performed by a centralized service provider. Glad someone was able to respond with some examples.
- ies7 2y ago
  I selfhosted mailcow (almost default setting) in a proxmox vm with ip from an internet provider for business. Never had problem with deliverability. A few employees have problem syncing calendar to their phone or outlook but it's less than 1% users.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  and security (handled by someone much better at it than me) in particular
bluGill 2y ago
Open source has many advantages, but either support is terrible or you are paying for support. If you can support yourself open source is great. However if you need help the options are often not very good, and when they are good they are not cheap - might or might not be competitive with non-free offering. Since Zoho is trying to attract small business, support is something they can beat open source one. (I don't know if they do, just that they can)

slrainka 2y ago

What are some of the open source/low cost email options that don’t have to deal with the headache of email deliverability, black list management etc.

patrickhogan1 2y ago
I gave Zoho a compliment, not sure why there is so much defensiveness. You are right - open source requires more work. My response related to open source was responding to the article's tone that it was surprising that anything could be cheaper than Google or Microsoft :) Which is silly.
- dartharva 2y ago
  How on earth is that comment defensive?
  - patrickhogan1 2y ago
    Good point. I have been up way too long. I re-read the question now as just wanting alternatives. I read the question earlier about email deliverability and black list management as being rhetorical in that those services are usually performed by a centralized service provider. Glad someone was able to respond with some examples.
ies7 2y ago
I selfhosted mailcow (almost default setting) in a proxmox vm with ip from an internet provider for business. Never had problem with deliverability. A few employees have problem syncing calendar to their phone or outlook but it's less than 1% users.
EasyMark 2y ago
and security (handled by someone much better at it than me) in particular

bluGill 2y ago

Open source has many advantages, but either support is terrible or you are paying for support. If you can support yourself open source is great. However if you need help the options are often not very good, and when they are good they are not cheap - might or might not be competitive with non-free offering. Since Zoho is trying to attract small business, support is something they can beat open source one. (I don't know if they do, just that they can)