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Valve is making tons of money with the Index. It used to be at the top of Steam charts for a really long time, literally outselling most AAA games. Today it's s

Valve is making tons of money with the Index. It used to be at the top of Steam charts for a really long time, literally outselling most AAA games. Today it's still in the list [1], albeit a bit lower. But still impressive, considering it costs 20-30x of the average game on that list. And it used to be much more expensive back when it was at the top. [1] https://store.steampowered.com/search/?l=english&filter=topsellers https://store.steampowered.com/search/?l=english&filter=tops...

jsheard 3y ago
> But still impressive, considering it costs 20-30x of the average game on that list. The Steam top sellers list is ordered by revenue, not units sold, so each Index they sell is worth 20-30x of a game sale in the rankings. Hence why Counter Strike 2 is the #2 "top seller" despite ostensibly being free - it's counting revenue. > And it used to be much more expensive back when it was at the top. The price actually hasn't moved at all, the full Index kit still costs the same $999 it launched at in 2019. The cheaper SKU on the charts is just the headset without the controllers or base stations, which they only started offering relatively recently, but you still need to have controllers and base stations to use it. The headset alone being as high as it is implies that most of the people still buying Index hardware are existing Index/Vive owners who want to renew or upgrade their existing Lighthouse setup, and few are investing in a complete brand new Index setup today.
- sigmoid10 3y ago
  That doesn't change anything? If you can sell something for 30x the price of a game while only selling 1/20th of the units, you still beat all big studios in terms of revenue. And the index was literally in the top 10 for, like, several years, with everything included at ~$1k.

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Valve is making tons of money with the Index. It used to be at the top of Steam charts for a really long time, literally outselling most AAA games. Today it's s

by sigmoid10 3y ago

jsheard 3y ago
> But still impressive, considering it costs 20-30x of the average game on that list. The Steam top sellers list is ordered by revenue, not units sold, so each Index they sell is worth 20-30x of a game sale in the rankings. Hence why Counter Strike 2 is the #2 "top seller" despite ostensibly being free - it's counting revenue. > And it used to be much more expensive back when it was at the top. The price actually hasn't moved at all, the full Index kit still costs the same $999 it launched at in 2019. The cheaper SKU on the charts is just the headset without the controllers or base stations, which they only started offering relatively recently, but you still need to have controllers and base stations to use it. The headset alone being as high as it is implies that most of the people still buying Index hardware are existing Index/Vive owners who want to renew or upgrade their existing Lighthouse setup, and few are investing in a complete brand new Index setup today.
- sigmoid10 3y ago
  That doesn't change anything? If you can sell something for 30x the price of a game while only selling 1/20th of the units, you still beat all big studios in terms of revenue. And the index was literally in the top 10 for, like, several years, with everything included at ~$1k.