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I wasn't able to run Nextcloud without Docker (to save compute power on a tiny VPS), there were so many setup issues that I've run into, and the docs were terri

I wasn't able to run Nextcloud without Docker (to save compute power on a tiny VPS), there were so many setup issues that I've run into, and the docs were terrible (undocumented folder permissions, no proper nginx configs). As an alternative, I use Google Drive through rclone drive mount (there was also their own drive mounter, which is dead now, I think), works fine, but it's not fast, and kinda pricy for my 1.5TB.

jmprspret 2y ago
Nextcloud seems to me like an incredibly bloated mess. I had high hopes for it, genuinely really wanted it to work.
- ac130kz 2y ago
  Which makes me wonder, it seems creating your own paid backup storage provider is still viable in 2024.
- aborsy 2y ago
  It seems to be a CEO issue. Nextcloud needs to focus on a replacement of Dropbox, which is fast, easy to install, secure, bug-free, and aesthetically appealing. In order words, replace only the Dropbox, not Dropbox and Microsoft and Google and a lot of other applications.
  - longitudinal93 2y ago
    It's not meant to be a replacement for Dropbox but rather for Google Drive + Google Docs + Google Photos, all of which is fine by me as it's been working well for me as a replacement for all of those since 2020.
    - mr_machine 2y ago
      Yeah, I've been using it since the early days of OwnCloud, both personally and professionally. Love it and don't understand the haters at all. It's not perfect but it's really damn good -- and it's F/OSS.
    - interloxia 2y ago
      It's even worse by that metric in my rather disappointed experience. With Hetzner, the price is right, but I miss Dropbox.
- k4rli 2y ago
  Needs a rewrite in Rust. PHP is just hopeless
- throwaway598 2y ago
  You're not alone. A webapp with slow spinny widgets coupled with laggy file management. I'm sure it used to be better. I don't need a weather widget telling me what the weather's like outside in a file store and sync app.
sokols 2y ago
Hetzner has a product which is a managed Nextcloud instance basically. https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share/ https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share/
- ac130kz 2y ago
  I've seen evidence of Hetzner banning people for no reasons, they also seem shady about their hardware access, not a good sign. It also seems about as expensive as running just Google Drive for my purposes (at least 2 TB with plans to expand further). PS using E2E encryption on their Storage Box solution seems to be a decent alternative though.
- dddw 2y ago
  I use that, but it's quite slow compared to running it yourself on hetzner on a VPS. Still the burden of updates. About the banning... I don't do anything remotely shady and have been a customer over 5 years.

jmprspret 2y ago

Nextcloud seems to me like an incredibly bloated mess. I had high hopes for it, genuinely really wanted it to work.

ac130kz 2y ago
Which makes me wonder, it seems creating your own paid backup storage provider is still viable in 2024.
aborsy 2y ago
It seems to be a CEO issue. Nextcloud needs to focus on a replacement of Dropbox, which is fast, easy to install, secure, bug-free, and aesthetically appealing. In order words, replace only the Dropbox, not Dropbox and Microsoft and Google and a lot of other applications.
- longitudinal93 2y ago
  It's not meant to be a replacement for Dropbox but rather for Google Drive + Google Docs + Google Photos, all of which is fine by me as it's been working well for me as a replacement for all of those since 2020.
  - mr_machine 2y ago
    Yeah, I've been using it since the early days of OwnCloud, both personally and professionally. Love it and don't understand the haters at all. It's not perfect but it's really damn good -- and it's F/OSS.
  - interloxia 2y ago
    It's even worse by that metric in my rather disappointed experience. With Hetzner, the price is right, but I miss Dropbox.
k4rli 2y ago
Needs a rewrite in Rust. PHP is just hopeless
throwaway598 2y ago
You're not alone. A webapp with slow spinny widgets coupled with laggy file management. I'm sure it used to be better. I don't need a weather widget telling me what the weather's like outside in a file store and sync app.

sokols 2y ago

Hetzner has a product which is a managed Nextcloud instance basically. https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share/ https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share/

ac130kz 2y ago
I've seen evidence of Hetzner banning people for no reasons, they also seem shady about their hardware access, not a good sign. It also seems about as expensive as running just Google Drive for my purposes (at least 2 TB with plans to expand further). PS using E2E encryption on their Storage Box solution seems to be a decent alternative though.
dddw 2y ago
I use that, but it's quite slow compared to running it yourself on hetzner on a VPS. Still the burden of updates. About the banning... I don't do anything remotely shady and have been a customer over 5 years.