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also, and this is affecting a lot of other federal jobs or jobs requiring federal licensing like CDLs, you can't smoke weed. given how popular weed has become

also, and this is affecting a lot of other federal jobs or jobs requiring federal licensing like CDLs, you can't smoke weed. given how popular weed has become in legalized states, this is quickly becoming a major issue for all of these lines of work

sneak 3y ago
Personally, I think safety-critical roles like ATC should be restricted to those who don’t take recreational psychoactives of any kind, alcohol included. This includes in their off hours.
- ntumlin 3y ago
  > recreational psychoactives of any kind I’d prefer my ATC has a cup of coffee if they want it. Aside from that, what does what happens in their off hours matter provided they’re coming to work sober?
  - sneak 3y ago
    Many psychoactives have medium term effects on the brain. Regular marijuana consumption causes memory and attention deficits even when not stoned. That matters. There is even an argument that caffeine should be restricted in such roles. I certainly wouldn’t want ATC operating on too many energy drinks or coffee. If we are banning people who take antidepressants, we should also be banning people who take edibles on their day off. If we are going purely performance-based, then there should be a mandatory cognitive function test before the start of every shift, testing working memory, reaction times, coordination, etc. “sober” is a wide spectrum and encompasses “ate tons of edibles 48 hours ago and came to work on 3 hours of sleep and a five hour energy shot on the way in”.
coldtea 3y ago
>given how popular weed has become in legalized states, this is quickly becoming a major issue for all of these lines of work I'd rather my ATC is not smoking weed before arriving at the job (or worse, between breaks)... Lots of studies of how it impairs reaction times, executive function, and motor control (Of course the same goes for medicinally subscribeb anything that functions like that, including all kinds of pills)
- zamadatix 3y ago
  Who said anything about being/getting high at the job site? ATCs can drink alcohol but they sure as hell can't get drunk during their break or before they drive in.
  - coldtea 3y ago
    >Who said anything about being/getting high at the job site? Nobody said it, but their habbit of casual weed use hinted at it...
    - bobthepanda 3y ago
      Yet we do not apply the same standard to alcohol. The way the law and testing works now, you cannot have had any weed of any kind in the last three months.
    - zamadatix 3y ago
      How does casual use hint at going to work intoxicated?

sneak 3y ago

Personally, I think safety-critical roles like ATC should be restricted to those who don’t take recreational psychoactives of any kind, alcohol included. This includes in their off hours.

ntumlin 3y ago
> recreational psychoactives of any kind I’d prefer my ATC has a cup of coffee if they want it. Aside from that, what does what happens in their off hours matter provided they’re coming to work sober?
- sneak 3y ago
  Many psychoactives have medium term effects on the brain. Regular marijuana consumption causes memory and attention deficits even when not stoned. That matters. There is even an argument that caffeine should be restricted in such roles. I certainly wouldn’t want ATC operating on too many energy drinks or coffee. If we are banning people who take antidepressants, we should also be banning people who take edibles on their day off. If we are going purely performance-based, then there should be a mandatory cognitive function test before the start of every shift, testing working memory, reaction times, coordination, etc. “sober” is a wide spectrum and encompasses “ate tons of edibles 48 hours ago and came to work on 3 hours of sleep and a five hour energy shot on the way in”.

coldtea 3y ago

>given how popular weed has become in legalized states, this is quickly becoming a major issue for all of these lines of work I'd rather my ATC is not smoking weed before arriving at the job (or worse, between breaks)... Lots of studies of how it impairs reaction times, executive function, and motor control (Of course the same goes for medicinally subscribeb anything that functions like that, including all kinds of pills)

zamadatix 3y ago
Who said anything about being/getting high at the job site? ATCs can drink alcohol but they sure as hell can't get drunk during their break or before they drive in.
- coldtea 3y ago
  >Who said anything about being/getting high at the job site? Nobody said it, but their habbit of casual weed use hinted at it...
  - bobthepanda 3y ago
    Yet we do not apply the same standard to alcohol. The way the law and testing works now, you cannot have had any weed of any kind in the last three months.
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    How does casual use hint at going to work intoxicated?