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There is a huge misconception regarding the ban. To effectively ban something, you don't really need to make the ban airtight. You just need to make using tik
by __rito__ 3y ago
There is a huge misconception regarding the ban.
To effectively ban something, you don't really need to make the ban airtight.
You just need to make using tiktok really inconvenient.
You ensure that tiktok complies to the ban, by threatning sanctions to executives, or by seizing their US properties and assets. You do this to make sure the tiktok app or website doesn't respond to any IP from the US.
Then, you also make all your ISPs, phone carriers to respect the ban.
Tiktok now isn't available in Play Store, App Store, etc. as Apple and Google will comply very easily.
Now, it becomes really really inconvenient for the common person to use tiktok. It can still be done through VPN+website. But it looks very poor, and it is slow, and you need to pay a subscription money.
Other options like YT shorts, Instagram are sitting there and very convenient.
As the populace shift there, creators shift there, too.
That is how tiktok crumbles.
There won't be a cat and mouse game like piracy sites, because piracy sites provide a kind of value that is simply absent in tiktok.
People will just move on.
0.01%, if that, of the total number of current users in the US will keep using tiktok. Let them.
You don't really need to ensure an airtight ban. That is futile and unnecessary.
- SkyPuncher 3y ago> Then, you also make all your ISPs, phone carriers to respect the ban. This feels like a “draw the rest of the owl” argument. This is the hard part. The US doesn’t have the great firewall of China. As far as I know, the only way I’ve ever seen the US government block a site is by actually seizing the domain. Is that what they do here? I don’t see them reasonable enforcing this at all DNS level. People will just switch to an alternative DNS provider.
- sneed_chucker 3y agoThink about the average TikTok user. Getting it off of the iOS app store basically eliminates it as an option for that demographic.
- meiraleal 3y ago> Tiktok now isn't available in Play Store, App Store, etc. as Apple and Google will comply very easily. How is that not an outright ban? Last step: the whole world will start to use the same framework and it is the death of Silicon Valley. That would be great for the world.
- __rito__ 3y agoMy original comment is a reply to the argument that you often hear- "in this day and age, you can't truly ban something". I say to that- "you don't really need to truly ban anything, you just have to make it hella inconvenient". Just eliminate the app from the Apple App Store and Google Play Store. Almost all the work is done. Just like that. You do some more, and you effectively shrink the user base by 99%+. That's all you need.
- bjourne 3y agoBecause Microsoft, Apple, and Google are free to host whatever software they want. So make them not want to host TikTok. They can just come up with some BS as to why they don't host TikTok. The BS doesn't even have to use the words "China" or "Chinese" as long as the BS can conceivably be argued to include TikTok but not Instagram and whatever else you have. Doesn't matter how stupid the BS would be ("Ah, we don't host social network apps that starts with the letter 'T' unless the next letter is 'w' so Twitter is ok but not TikTok") because it would be understood by all that it is BS.
- meiraleal 3y agoAs a Brazilian looking for the implications of this to my country, I don't care about technicalities. If TikTok isn't in the app and play store, it was banned.
- markus_zhang 3y agoGetting the app off the stores is already good enough. I think that's going to cut half of the users who do not know or trust external .apk files. At the same time YouTube and Instagram can lure creators with better contracts. I think that's good enough.