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You have to run some terminal command, to make a system setting visible, just to be able to install non-app store apps. > sudo spctl --master-disable

by tacker2000 2y ago

steelbrain 2y ago
This is not true. You do not have to do this to install non-app store apps. Right click and open, if you don't get an option to open the first time, right click and open the second time and the option shows up. Please do not disable Gatekeeper because you want to open apps from a keyboard shortcut instead of right click and open.
- tacker2000 2y ago
  If something is standing in the way of my OS being usable and using it as intended, then I will disable it, simple as that. I dont need any hand holding or babysitting thank you very much. Same with the useless UAC warning dialogs on Windows.
  - karlshea 2y ago
    This is like complaining about having to type `sudo`.
    - tacker2000 2y ago
      How so? I dont need to use sudo everytime im using some normal harmless userland program like git for example. Gatekeeper was only implemented to scare mainstream Apple users into using their pile of shit App Store. And developers needing to spend cash and “notarize” their apps. You can see the same discussion happening now with the iOS 3rd party stores. As if every 3rd party app was a potentially filled tonthe brim with “viruses”
      - karlshea 2y ago
        I don't see a Gatekeeper prompt every time I open an unsigned app, either.
  - s1gsegv 2y ago
    Having to right click the app (only the first time btw) to open it if it’s unsigned seems right to me even as a power user. If the app is “Mozilla Firefox” and it’s suddenly unsigned I’m going to want to figure out why. Same with UAC, I used to foolishly disable it completely but one day I opened a sketchy app in a moment of stupidity and it escalated to install a bunch of malware. I never would’ve given it admin, since it didn’t need it, but I’d turned off the dialog. The dialog definitely would’ve been a wake up call. It’s not always babysitting to have your computer go “hey does this seem right?” Especially when it’s designed like gatekeeper to get out of your way the second time. This is true for a lot of the new protections. SIP is a really good thing. I can modify the system if I really need to, but I want to know for sure when that’s happening.
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slowmovintarget 2y ago
I'm not sure what you're talking about. You can download .dmg files and install. You can also get a fair bit of software through Homebrew. brew install git brew install emacs --cask Unless you have something else you're talking about. You'll get the "...are you sure?" prompt, but that doesn't prevent installation.

You have to run some terminal command, to make a system setting visible, just to be able to install non-app store apps. > sudo spctl --master-disable

steelbrain 2y ago

This is not true. You do not have to do this to install non-app store apps. Right click and open, if you don't get an option to open the first time, right click and open the second time and the option shows up. Please do not disable Gatekeeper because you want to open apps from a keyboard shortcut instead of right click and open.

tacker2000 2y ago
If something is standing in the way of my OS being usable and using it as intended, then I will disable it, simple as that. I dont need any hand holding or babysitting thank you very much. Same with the useless UAC warning dialogs on Windows.
- karlshea 2y ago
  This is like complaining about having to type `sudo`.
  - tacker2000 2y ago
    How so? I dont need to use sudo everytime im using some normal harmless userland program like git for example. Gatekeeper was only implemented to scare mainstream Apple users into using their pile of shit App Store. And developers needing to spend cash and “notarize” their apps. You can see the same discussion happening now with the iOS 3rd party stores. As if every 3rd party app was a potentially filled tonthe brim with “viruses”
    - karlshea 2y ago
      I don't see a Gatekeeper prompt every time I open an unsigned app, either.
- s1gsegv 2y ago
  Having to right click the app (only the first time btw) to open it if it’s unsigned seems right to me even as a power user. If the app is “Mozilla Firefox” and it’s suddenly unsigned I’m going to want to figure out why. Same with UAC, I used to foolishly disable it completely but one day I opened a sketchy app in a moment of stupidity and it escalated to install a bunch of malware. I never would’ve given it admin, since it didn’t need it, but I’d turned off the dialog. The dialog definitely would’ve been a wake up call. It’s not always babysitting to have your computer go “hey does this seem right?” Especially when it’s designed like gatekeeper to get out of your way the second time. This is true for a lot of the new protections. SIP is a really good thing. I can modify the system if I really need to, but I want to know for sure when that’s happening.
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slowmovintarget 2y ago

I'm not sure what you're talking about. You can download .dmg files and install. You can also get a fair bit of software through Homebrew. brew install git brew install emacs --cask Unless you have something else you're talking about. You'll get the "...are you sure?" prompt, but that doesn't prevent installation.