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I seem to recall that the central takeaway from the essay tyranny of structurelessness is that when one affects to dispose of an official, formal and acknowledg
by ChainOfFools 2y ago
I seem to recall that the central takeaway from the essay tyranny of structurelessness is that when one affects to dispose of an official, formal and acknowledged power hierarchy, it simply reappears as an unofficial, informal, actively disavowed, and even more paranoid version of its former self.
- TulliusCicero 2y agoYeah, the issue with social power is that it can't really be created or destroyed, just reorganized. Similar to how if governments get too weak, you end up with warlords/gangs just taking their place, power abhors a vacuum and all that.
- cyanydeez 2y agoYou mean businesses, not warlords.
- Drakim 2y agopotato, potahto
- TulliusCicero 2y agoNo, I was talking about when governments lose even basic ability to control the peace, when they can no longer keep the monopoly on violence expected of sovereign states. Haiti, for instance.
- 082349872349872 2y agoThe first thing I thought of when reading the title about self-organising workers was: didn't we used to call that a "soviet"?
- hnbad 2y agoThe difference is that in soviets (in the original sense) the workers held actual power. Bayer still wants full control over their workers, they just want to offload all the responsibility normally held by middle management to them as well. They're trying to get rid of "hierarchies" without getting rid of the power structure. I don't see how this benefits the workers at all.
- wildrhythms 2y agoNo, because self-organizing does not imply ownership of the means of production.