> And in fact they mostly think we're losers for wasting our time doing it True, this happens enough places to be a thing. Of the people who think the softwar

> And in fact they mostly think we're losers for wasting our time doing it True, this happens enough places to be a thing. Of the people who think the software "little people" are losers, I think there's at least two versions: * They think the work is skilled, and that the worker has valuable expertise, and is worth listening to. Even though they still think the person is a loser for being a salaried commodity rather than a "smartest guy in the room" or "leader", like them, who's a real player with the big rewards. * They think software work is low-skilled grunt, the workers are a temporary evil, are uppity about compensation and loyalty (this is 'improving' recently) and don't know their place, and their input has no value. And of course software workers are losers in the world of business, because they don't operate and profit personally like real players do. The latter is a worse situation to be in. :)