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>Actually, Google engineers are actively making it possible for users to liberate their data: This is already shown to be incomplete, and is basically identica

>Actually, Google engineers are actively making it possible for users to liberate their data: This is already shown to be incomplete, and is basically identical to what Facebook allows the user to extract. The 'hostage' scenario described is not being able to easily import your data to another social network. >I believe Google wants users to have the best possible experience, and possession of a user's data should not be "nine-tenths of the law." Google definitely want the best experience, as long as it's on their services only. The video searching example is a perfect example, why are other video irrelevant suddenly? They're not, they just don't put money in Google's pocket. >It may be larger than Google+, but FB's Market Capitalization is $69.5B, while Google is $199.1B. I think this invalidates your argument on this point completely. Actually now I'm just calling B/S Fanboy alarm. Market cap has no bearing here, facebook only went public 2 days ago, it has no affect on the number of users they have, or that fact that google want a similar number of users for Google+.

VikingCoder 14y ago
I don't think the Data Liberation Front is identical to what Facebook allows the user to extract. For one, I can't get the contact information of my friends. The situation is absolutely asymmetric. I can download all of the email addresses of all of my Google Contacts, right now. That you think Facebook isn't holding your data hostage sounds to me more like Stockholm Syndrome. Regardless of the relationship between Google and Facebook, it's a good feature that Google allows you to download that. It'd be nice if Facebook offered the same, don't you think? I don't know what you mean about videos, honestly. If I search for "somebody that I used to know," I see Youtube, vimeo, nbc. And those all have embedded images, enticing you to watch the video. Is your assertion that vimeo "puts money in Google's pocket"? Searching for other videos that I know are not on Youtube produces them in search results, just fine. If I Google "Robert Scoble Facebook," I can find his page pretty easily. Tell me what to do, within Facebook, to find his Google+ profile? And you can call fanboy all you want. You apparently think "number of users" is the only metric of value, which is fine - that's your opinion. My opinion is that market cap is a pretty good indication of the relative size of a company, and by that metric, Facebook is the underdog. It's a shame they're also holding my data hostage, because that means I'm not going to root for that underdog.

VikingCoder 14y ago

I don't think the Data Liberation Front is identical to what Facebook allows the user to extract. For one, I can't get the contact information of my friends. The situation is absolutely asymmetric. I can download all of the email addresses of all of my Google Contacts, right now. That you think Facebook isn't holding your data hostage sounds to me more like Stockholm Syndrome. Regardless of the relationship between Google and Facebook, it's a good feature that Google allows you to download that. It'd be nice if Facebook offered the same, don't you think? I don't know what you mean about videos, honestly. If I search for "somebody that I used to know," I see Youtube, vimeo, nbc. And those all have embedded images, enticing you to watch the video. Is your assertion that vimeo "puts money in Google's pocket"? Searching for other videos that I know are not on Youtube produces them in search results, just fine. If I Google "Robert Scoble Facebook," I can find his page pretty easily. Tell me what to do, within Facebook, to find his Google+ profile? And you can call fanboy all you want. You apparently think "number of users" is the only metric of value, which is fine - that's your opinion. My opinion is that market cap is a pretty good indication of the relative size of a company, and by that metric, Facebook is the underdog. It's a shame they're also holding my data hostage, because that means I'm not going to root for that underdog.