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The CWT episode where Haidt spoke to Tyler on this was one of the more heated ones recently. Recommended, get some popcorn. https://conversationswithtyler.com/

• adolph 3y ago
  Well worth a listen. Cowen’s dander was up as if he were a regular HN contributor.
• s1artibartfast 3y ago
  Yeah, Tyler normally plays softball with guests, albeit with interesting questions. He really did a lot of pushing back on this one, and it was really interesting to see their different approaches. Haidt really seemed focus on finding common ground with Tyler personally, while Tyler was far more interested in challenging hadiat's position. Ultimately, I felt they were talking about different points. Tyler thought that it was on net positive on average, or at least will be in the global long run. Haidt was talking about worsening outcomes for a subset of the population, and perhaps the average today. My priors lead me to agree with basically both of them in their own domains. I think social media today is increasing harm and dropping the mean outcome, but also increasing the performance for children who successfully navigate it. I think long-term, culture will evolve to develop better habits around social media. I did however think that Tyler's hypothesis that AI will curate people's social media feed to free up time was simply dumb. I think it entirely ignores why most people use social media, which is both an escape and an addiction. It's like suggesting that people will spend less time drinking and drunk if we provide everyone with High proof alcohol for free. They aren't drinking it for the calories.