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> Since I've heard new music by other artists that did a lot more for me. Feel free to drop names. I'm all ears (ha ha).

msephton 3y ago
My favourites of the year so far... album: Yo Irie "Love Affair" single: LAGHEADS "Your Light" most anticipated album: Hazel English A playlist from last year: https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2023/12/31/japanese-music-recommendations-2023/ https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2023/12/31/japanese-music-re...
- rotw 3y ago
  See, all of those sound "derivative" to me. Absolutely nothing against Japanese yacht rock/soft funk, but it's silly to blame musicians for using genre conventions when those are inherently part of the musical language IMO. Particularly given Cindy Lee works with 1940s-60s pop genre conventions of girl groups and also performs in drag, it's inherently a kind of music that repurposes familiar elements to say something new. I've been a fan of Cindy Lee's work since before they started the project and were in the band Women, who're a sort of your favourites' favourite artist. Part of the hype around Diamond Jubilee is the context of that band, and the development of successor bands since. But part of the hype is also that it comes from a very sincere place - it's a full-on auteurist work, the antithesis of "lo fi chill hip hop beats to study/relax to". It can aesthetically or artistically be your thing or not (it very much is mine), but it's a breath of fresh air to have such a fully-realized artistic statement that isn't a focus-grouped, try-hard Event get the acclaim it deserves.
  - msephton 3y ago
    I'm really happy for you, honestly. It must be amazing to have followed a band for so long and see them "make it", so to speak, like this. I remember feeling the same way having followed Phoenix for years and years before they hit the big time. I don't have much affinity for 1940-60s pop, outside of The Beatles, Motown, and the Phillu Soul we refer to as Northern Soul here in the UK. Which I guess is probably why Diamond Jubilee doesn't do it for me. It's purposefully derivative, which is fine... it's just not to my tastes. So I'm keen to hear specifically what you think the Japanese tracks are derivative of, that'd probably be more my style.
indigodaddy 3y ago
I mean, like he said, it’s kind of alright, but not what I’d call great music (I’m listening now and I’m going to have to try really really hard to call it good). Here’s some great bands/artists to check out (not saying they are in whatever category Cindy Lee wants to be): Islands (Nick Thorburn/Nick Diamonds/The Unicorns/Mister Heavenly) The Growlers Blonde Redhead Bill Callahan Cat Power (the older stuff especially) Molly Nilsson Lady Lamb Big Thief Andrew Bird Chastity Belt Thao WHY? Mark Ribot y los postizos cubanos Intergalactic Lovers Felice Brothers Goran Bregovic Kevin Morby Hurray for the riff raff Cherry Glazerr Michael Kiwanuka Hamilton Leithauser M Ward Khruangbin
- jddj 3y ago
  I favourited this a few days ago to have a listen through on the weekend and some of this is really great, thanks for sharing. Marc Ribot and Los Cubanos Postizos in particular
- JKCalhoun 3y ago
  Since you're going older, you missed Grandaddy and Jason Lytle's solo stuff. Also Luluc, Courtney Barnett.
gwill 3y ago
I'm in my early thirties and grew up in the midwest, so i feel that plays a bit into my music tastes but Petey has been my favorite artist lately. both of his albums are fantastic front to back, but i'd start with USA.

msephton 3y ago

My favourites of the year so far... album: Yo Irie "Love Affair" single: LAGHEADS "Your Light" most anticipated album: Hazel English A playlist from last year: https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2023/12/31/japanese-music-recommendations-2023/ https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2023/12/31/japanese-music-re...

rotw 3y ago
See, all of those sound "derivative" to me. Absolutely nothing against Japanese yacht rock/soft funk, but it's silly to blame musicians for using genre conventions when those are inherently part of the musical language IMO. Particularly given Cindy Lee works with 1940s-60s pop genre conventions of girl groups and also performs in drag, it's inherently a kind of music that repurposes familiar elements to say something new. I've been a fan of Cindy Lee's work since before they started the project and were in the band Women, who're a sort of your favourites' favourite artist. Part of the hype around Diamond Jubilee is the context of that band, and the development of successor bands since. But part of the hype is also that it comes from a very sincere place - it's a full-on auteurist work, the antithesis of "lo fi chill hip hop beats to study/relax to". It can aesthetically or artistically be your thing or not (it very much is mine), but it's a breath of fresh air to have such a fully-realized artistic statement that isn't a focus-grouped, try-hard Event get the acclaim it deserves.
- msephton 3y ago
  I'm really happy for you, honestly. It must be amazing to have followed a band for so long and see them "make it", so to speak, like this. I remember feeling the same way having followed Phoenix for years and years before they hit the big time. I don't have much affinity for 1940-60s pop, outside of The Beatles, Motown, and the Phillu Soul we refer to as Northern Soul here in the UK. Which I guess is probably why Diamond Jubilee doesn't do it for me. It's purposefully derivative, which is fine... it's just not to my tastes. So I'm keen to hear specifically what you think the Japanese tracks are derivative of, that'd probably be more my style.

indigodaddy 3y ago

I mean, like he said, it’s kind of alright, but not what I’d call great music (I’m listening now and I’m going to have to try really really hard to call it good). Here’s some great bands/artists to check out (not saying they are in whatever category Cindy Lee wants to be): Islands (Nick Thorburn/Nick Diamonds/The Unicorns/Mister Heavenly) The Growlers Blonde Redhead Bill Callahan Cat Power (the older stuff especially) Molly Nilsson Lady Lamb Big Thief Andrew Bird Chastity Belt Thao WHY? Mark Ribot y los postizos cubanos Intergalactic Lovers Felice Brothers Goran Bregovic Kevin Morby Hurray for the riff raff Cherry Glazerr Michael Kiwanuka Hamilton Leithauser M Ward Khruangbin

jddj 3y ago
I favourited this a few days ago to have a listen through on the weekend and some of this is really great, thanks for sharing. Marc Ribot and Los Cubanos Postizos in particular
JKCalhoun 3y ago
Since you're going older, you missed Grandaddy and Jason Lytle's solo stuff. Also Luluc, Courtney Barnett.

gwill 3y ago

I'm in my early thirties and grew up in the midwest, so i feel that plays a bit into my music tastes but Petey has been my favorite artist lately. both of his albums are fantastic front to back, but i'd start with USA.