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Check out the “Data Linked to You”. Why does a subway app need my health and fitness data or any of my data at all?

ploxiln 2y ago
How can you improve software, without tracking the ever-living s*** out of your users? (How did programmers do it for the first 30-ish years? As we all know, it's impossible ...)
- blitzar 2y ago
  > How can you improve software, without tracking the ever-living s** out of your users And selling it to the highest, second highest, third highest and lowest bidders, only then can you truly devlop a great user experience.
dylan604 2y ago
They need to know if you had a medical condition while on the train that it was a preexisting condition to avoid any liability.
- e40 2y ago
  What absolute bs.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    sorry you didn't read the implied /s that I felt was absolutely unnecessary to actually type out giving readers here the benefit of the doubt that it was understood without stating the obvious. but thanks for reminding me that not everyone reads the intent
    - Gunnerhead 2y ago
      I laughed.
    - bragr 2y ago
      You fell afoul of Poe's law [1]. People do read intent, but I think you're overestimating how clearly you communicated your intent. You say the /s was implied, but implied by what? It's a crazy statement for sure, but people come make matter of fact crazy statements on here all the time. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
  - pclmulqdq 2y ago
    I'm sure it wasn't the intent, but when someone sues for $10 million over a death on the train, you can bet that data's coming out in court.
altairprime 2y ago
The full privacy policy is here. https://new.mta.info/privacy-policy https://new.mta.info/privacy-policy As a transit provider, they seem to be offering the option to report detailed location data for a “smart alerts” feature provided by subcontract to a third party. My walking speed is relevant to predictive alerting for transit, given the non-uniform distribution of US transit, so it makes sense that personalized fitness data is a thing. (I don’t approve of doing so server-side — that particular function should be device-local.) I also assume, unverified as I’m not in their city, that their transit improvement option may also use it. (See below.) They explicitly do not use your data for marketing. It’s a clearly written policy with full declarations in most respects. However — App authors, please update your privacy policy to explicitly describe how and which fitness data is collected and used? I’m having to make inferences and that’s understandable but will need to be corrected.

How can you improve software, without tracking the ever-living s*** out of your users? (How did programmers do it for the first 30-ish years? As we all know, it's impossible ...)

blitzar 2y ago
> How can you improve software, without tracking the ever-living s** out of your users And selling it to the highest, second highest, third highest and lowest bidders, only then can you truly devlop a great user experience.

dylan604 2y ago

They need to know if you had a medical condition while on the train that it was a preexisting condition to avoid any liability.

e40 2y ago
What absolute bs.
- dylan604 2y ago
  sorry you didn't read the implied /s that I felt was absolutely unnecessary to actually type out giving readers here the benefit of the doubt that it was understood without stating the obvious. but thanks for reminding me that not everyone reads the intent
  - Gunnerhead 2y ago
    I laughed.
  - bragr 2y ago
    You fell afoul of Poe's law [1]. People do read intent, but I think you're overestimating how clearly you communicated your intent. You say the /s was implied, but implied by what? It's a crazy statement for sure, but people come make matter of fact crazy statements on here all the time. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
- pclmulqdq 2y ago
  I'm sure it wasn't the intent, but when someone sues for $10 million over a death on the train, you can bet that data's coming out in court.

altairprime 2y ago

The full privacy policy is here. https://new.mta.info/privacy-policy https://new.mta.info/privacy-policy As a transit provider, they seem to be offering the option to report detailed location data for a “smart alerts” feature provided by subcontract to a third party. My walking speed is relevant to predictive alerting for transit, given the non-uniform distribution of US transit, so it makes sense that personalized fitness data is a thing. (I don’t approve of doing so server-side — that particular function should be device-local.) I also assume, unverified as I’m not in their city, that their transit improvement option may also use it. (See below.) They explicitly do not use your data for marketing. It’s a clearly written policy with full declarations in most respects. However — App authors, please update your privacy policy to explicitly describe how and which fitness data is collected and used? I’m having to make inferences and that’s understandable but will need to be corrected.