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I have zero interest in going to a geo cities website to burnish my non existent hipster musical credentials. It's just a marketing stunt and evidently successf

I have zero interest in going to a geo cities website to burnish my non existent hipster musical credentials. It's just a marketing stunt and evidently successful.

defrost 2y ago
If it's working for the artist and returning more than the micro pennies of streaming plays more power to them. I'll continue to get my music via snail mail pianola rolls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTrXAxZ-g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTrXAxZ-g
- 48864w6ui 2y ago
  The difference between hipsters and hobos is that a hobo spends two hours of pushing broom for their four-bit room.
  - PopAlongKid 2y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Road_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Road_(song)
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      if you all like picking, here's a contemporary interpretation of the tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwwAdB1Wl9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwwAdB1Wl9U (I am slightly disappointed that it didn't get covered in Me First and the Gimme Gimme's Love Their Country. Back in the day, my father tells me, the reefer cars were the best because (a) they used sawdust and hay to insulate the ice, providing a comfier ride than most wagons, and (b) the view, while sitting in the loading hatches, was panoramic)
bitwize 2y ago
It's okay. You won't even get an opportunity to hear the best music. All that stuff is distributed by hand to DJs you've never heard of, who play it once at parties you'll never attend, and then put it into their collection never to be heard again by anyone.
- injidup 2y ago
  The idea that there is "best music" is nonsense. There is music you like and there is music you don't like. Good or bad is subjective. I know composers who will wax lyrical on the genius of some piece and to me it sounds like two tortured cats in a sack but give me some great Cuban rhythms I can dance to and those same composers will look at me like I'm daft. We agree to disagree. The concept of "best", "new" and "original" is a teenage thrall to marketing. I assure that there is enough depth on Spotify to satisfy any taste but if it's only important to you to virtue signal then good luck with that.
  - whstl 2y ago
    I think you're both agreeing here. Bitwize's answer was sarcastic, and definitely not aimed at you. People really like to romanticize those things.
    - bitwize 2y ago
      Yeah, there was literally a Hackernews a few years ago who pretty much said what I said, but unironically: that there was music out there better than you've ever heard, but you'll never hear it because it's only released in print runs as few as one copy, and that copy is owned by a DJ who will never let it be heard again, and that this was by design because a wide listening audience would spoil the goodness of this impeccable music. I can't be arsed to find this comment just now, but I remember reading it. See also: Prince's Vault (from which I believe his estate is now compiling material to be released).
      - Projectiboga 2y ago
        Here is another example of exclusives from the old soundclash culture. A dubplate is an acetate disc usually of 10 inches diameter, traditionally used by studios to test recordings prior to mastering for the subsequent pressing of a vinyl record, but pioneered by reggae sound systems as a way to play exclusive music. They would later become an important facet of the jungle/drum and bass, UK garage, grime and dubstep music scenes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubplate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubplate
ecocentrik 2y ago
People usually complain about mid and late stage hipsters. The late actors, imitators and wannabes and that keep repeating the same behavior to signal ingroup inclusion. But that has more to do with the commodification of hipsterisum by millenials (hipsters), boomers (hippies) and generations before them. I'm not really sure what the basis of you complaint is. Has anyone else been releasing albums on GeoCities?
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greenie_beans 2y ago
luckily for all the nerds, it's available to listen on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y&feature=youtu.be
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jnovek 2y ago
Is someone forcing you to? Blink twice if you need help. I see this take all the time on HN and Reddit — trashing something in the most cynical way possible because you personally don’t enjoy it. Things that an outspoken poster dislikes are always “marketing” or “karma farming” or “bots”. Why not live and let live? Why not accept that people have different tastes and interests? What is their enjoyment taking away from you?
- injidup 2y ago
  If it were an article that simply was a link to a cool band that would be different. The article sets itself up as click bait claiming to be "the future music" and making the absurd suggestion that we will all soon be getting our music from random Geocities sites. It's akin to the claim that we will all soon be getting all our calories from home produced organic food. As a marketing stunt for one or two bands it's great but it doesn't solve the issue of distribution and monetisation that most artists have. One has been able to buy CD's direct from band sites since ever. The only notable thing in the article is the mention of "Geocities" which seems to be a trigger word around here for the golden days of never were.
  - jnovek 2y ago
    The impression I got from the article is that some bands are experimenting with different distribution media because they’re not happy with the discoverability or pay from the big names like Spotify. The bit about it being the “future” is mad hyperbole but, I dunno, I think it’s kinda interesting that people are experimenting with distribution methods that they control. One of the things that frustrates me about the modern web is that it’s become such a monoculture dominated by these giant vendors like Spotify and Meta. It’s pretty rad to see people say “no” to that. I don’t know if it’s an experiment that will work beyond Cindy Lee (it reminds me of Radiohead’s “pay what you want” distribution of In Rainbows which didn’t really work for anyone else) but I’m glad they tried. Also re Geocities: It triggers some rose-tinted nostalgia for some of us in a certain age range. E.g. for me I learned HTML as a teenager in the late 90s so I could put up my own sites on Geocities. It was a formative part of my career in tech. It was definitely a mess, though.
JKCalhoun 2y ago
> It's just a marketing stunt Man, you need something these days. Good for them.

I have zero interest in going to a geo cities website to burnish my non existent hipster musical credentials. It's just a marketing stunt and evidently successful.

defrost 2y ago

If it's working for the artist and returning more than the micro pennies of streaming plays more power to them. I'll continue to get my music via snail mail pianola rolls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTrXAxZ-g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTrXAxZ-g

48864w6ui 2y ago
The difference between hipsters and hobos is that a hobo spends two hours of pushing broom for their four-bit room.
- PopAlongKid 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Road_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Road_(song)
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    if you all like picking, here's a contemporary interpretation of the tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwwAdB1Wl9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwwAdB1Wl9U (I am slightly disappointed that it didn't get covered in Me First and the Gimme Gimme's Love Their Country. Back in the day, my father tells me, the reefer cars were the best because (a) they used sawdust and hay to insulate the ice, providing a comfier ride than most wagons, and (b) the view, while sitting in the loading hatches, was panoramic)

bitwize 2y ago

It's okay. You won't even get an opportunity to hear the best music. All that stuff is distributed by hand to DJs you've never heard of, who play it once at parties you'll never attend, and then put it into their collection never to be heard again by anyone.

injidup 2y ago
The idea that there is "best music" is nonsense. There is music you like and there is music you don't like. Good or bad is subjective. I know composers who will wax lyrical on the genius of some piece and to me it sounds like two tortured cats in a sack but give me some great Cuban rhythms I can dance to and those same composers will look at me like I'm daft. We agree to disagree. The concept of "best", "new" and "original" is a teenage thrall to marketing. I assure that there is enough depth on Spotify to satisfy any taste but if it's only important to you to virtue signal then good luck with that.
- whstl 2y ago
  I think you're both agreeing here. Bitwize's answer was sarcastic, and definitely not aimed at you. People really like to romanticize those things.
  - bitwize 2y ago
    Yeah, there was literally a Hackernews a few years ago who pretty much said what I said, but unironically: that there was music out there better than you've ever heard, but you'll never hear it because it's only released in print runs as few as one copy, and that copy is owned by a DJ who will never let it be heard again, and that this was by design because a wide listening audience would spoil the goodness of this impeccable music. I can't be arsed to find this comment just now, but I remember reading it. See also: Prince's Vault (from which I believe his estate is now compiling material to be released).
    - Projectiboga 2y ago
      Here is another example of exclusives from the old soundclash culture. A dubplate is an acetate disc usually of 10 inches diameter, traditionally used by studios to test recordings prior to mastering for the subsequent pressing of a vinyl record, but pioneered by reggae sound systems as a way to play exclusive music. They would later become an important facet of the jungle/drum and bass, UK garage, grime and dubstep music scenes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubplate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubplate

ecocentrik 2y ago

People usually complain about mid and late stage hipsters. The late actors, imitators and wannabes and that keep repeating the same behavior to signal ingroup inclusion. But that has more to do with the commodification of hipsterisum by millenials (hipsters), boomers (hippies) and generations before them. I'm not really sure what the basis of you complaint is. Has anyone else been releasing albums on GeoCities?

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greenie_beans 2y ago

luckily for all the nerds, it's available to listen on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y&feature=youtu.be

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jnovek 2y ago

Is someone forcing you to? Blink twice if you need help. I see this take all the time on HN and Reddit — trashing something in the most cynical way possible because you personally don’t enjoy it. Things that an outspoken poster dislikes are always “marketing” or “karma farming” or “bots”. Why not live and let live? Why not accept that people have different tastes and interests? What is their enjoyment taking away from you?

injidup 2y ago
If it were an article that simply was a link to a cool band that would be different. The article sets itself up as click bait claiming to be "the future music" and making the absurd suggestion that we will all soon be getting our music from random Geocities sites. It's akin to the claim that we will all soon be getting all our calories from home produced organic food. As a marketing stunt for one or two bands it's great but it doesn't solve the issue of distribution and monetisation that most artists have. One has been able to buy CD's direct from band sites since ever. The only notable thing in the article is the mention of "Geocities" which seems to be a trigger word around here for the golden days of never were.
- jnovek 2y ago
  The impression I got from the article is that some bands are experimenting with different distribution media because they’re not happy with the discoverability or pay from the big names like Spotify. The bit about it being the “future” is mad hyperbole but, I dunno, I think it’s kinda interesting that people are experimenting with distribution methods that they control. One of the things that frustrates me about the modern web is that it’s become such a monoculture dominated by these giant vendors like Spotify and Meta. It’s pretty rad to see people say “no” to that. I don’t know if it’s an experiment that will work beyond Cindy Lee (it reminds me of Radiohead’s “pay what you want” distribution of In Rainbows which didn’t really work for anyone else) but I’m glad they tried. Also re Geocities: It triggers some rose-tinted nostalgia for some of us in a certain age range. E.g. for me I learned HTML as a teenager in the late 90s so I could put up my own sites on Geocities. It was a formative part of my career in tech. It was definitely a mess, though.

JKCalhoun 2y ago

> It's just a marketing stunt Man, you need something these days. Good for them.