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Fallout style RPG made in Excel

125 points by droptablemain 2y ago

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timeon 2y ago
> simplified version of DnD mechanics Isn't Fallout based on GURPS?
- drbig 2y ago
  I believe it wasn't ever, but there were paper adaptations that used GURPS as the base.
  - thenipper 2y ago
    From what I recall is it was then they lost the license so they make SPECIAL
    - thenipper 2y ago
      Did some digging and found this: https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-rpg-origins-of-fallout-part-2-gurps.663838/ https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-rpg-origins-of-fallout-p...
- hopw_roewur_ne 2y ago
  Fallout 1 used GURPS in development, but Interplay lost the rights and they made their own system. Video by producer, designer, and lead programmer Tim Cain on the conversion process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgPwfHXiBjw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgPwfHXiBjw
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- jprete 2y ago
  My reading is that the author made a world and campaign in the Fallout style but implemented mechanics more like D&D.
- amiga386 2y ago
  It was meant to be, but: 1) they found it too complex for a game user interface, so they started to create a "GURPS-lite" 2) it was licensed from Steve Jackson Games, who didn't like the level of violence in the game. Thus began a fight over whether licensing even included veto rights on the entire game So in the end, they tweaked their "GURPS-lite" further, named it "SPECIAL", and abandoned the licensing deal https://web.archive.org/web/20151004175725/http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=60790 https://web.archive.org/web/20151004175725/http://www.nma-fa...
prophesi 2y ago
Is there a demonstration of this anywhere? I'd be hesitant to open a random Excel file.
- __s 2y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-42-7L7B0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-42-7L7B0
  - forgotpwd16 2y ago
    Seems they've made a few: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyN2mpPl_WGxaCd3QIcJ7bVM5Epows_jw https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyN2mpPl_WGxaCd3QIcJ7...
    - jcl 2y ago
      Looks like their “Baldur’s Gate” and “Fallout” games are practically identical, with similar overworld map and battle systems? https://storyteller-blog.com/2024/03/22/i-made-a-baldurs-gate-like-dnd-game-in-excel/ https://storyteller-blog.com/2024/03/22/i-made-a-baldurs-gat...
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    - beretguy 2y ago
      Is it more than 1 guy?
  - prophesi 2y ago
    Thanks!
  - lawlessone 2y ago
    omg it's actually interactive, i was expecting a spreadsheet.
  - jeromechoo 2y ago
atum47 2y ago
Some screenshots or even a video would be nice.
hu3 2y ago
This is great! With that said, I'm not going to open random Excel Spreadsheets. But I imported to Google Sheets because I couldn't contain my curiosity. The game didn't work on Google Sheets but I could take some screenshots: Intro: https://i.imgur.com/m5NJuPn.png https://i.imgur.com/m5NJuPn.png Map: https://i.imgur.com/GHUSpnv.png https://i.imgur.com/GHUSpnv.png Stats: https://i.imgur.com/lMQPPdz.png https://i.imgur.com/lMQPPdz.png Battle: https://i.imgur.com/NIXnxKD.png https://i.imgur.com/NIXnxKD.png Information: https://i.imgur.com/fdn4aO4.png https://i.imgur.com/fdn4aO4.png If this could be ported to Google Sheets, it would be sensational. Players could copy the sheet online and play. No Excel needed.
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- all2 2y ago
  But if its on GSheets, it could be multiplayer.
  - hu3 2y ago
    Indeed my friend. I wonder if we could implement anti-griefing and turn-based actions mechanisms using App Scripts: https://developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/sheets https://developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/sheets
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dschuetz 2y ago
Download this excel file, haha, no.
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erickhill 2y ago
I had no idea Excel was even capable of something like this. Incredible!
- johncessna 2y ago
  You can create a 3d engine with Excel! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCeOEQVUWZ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCeOEQVUWZ0
- alok-g 2y ago
  Something you may like: I had demonstrated several classical computer vision algorithms in Excel: https://github.com/amzn/computer-vision-basics-in-microsoft-excel https://github.com/amzn/computer-vision-basics-in-microsoft-... This was done using just built-in Excel formulas. No scripts/VBA.
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- amarant 2y ago
  "Spreadsheets in space on a spreadsheet" is my new favourite expletive for expressing shock!
- shagie 2y ago
  For a just spreadsheets (with a Bloomberg Terminal inspired interface) that scratches some of the EVE industry itches, give Prosperous Universe a glance https://prosperousuniverse.com https://prosperousuniverse.com . Remember that you're a CEO checks in once a day, says do these things and then goes and plays golf or mows the lawn - not a space ship pilot that needs to worry about gankers at the jump points.
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ethbr1 2y ago
If anyone is in the mood for throwback gaming, I highly recommend Pathways into Darkness (1993). [0] This was Bungie before Halo... before Marathon! Specifically, the UI, in which you see game designers grappling with resource and development limitations and creating a weird hybrid of a filesystem-storing-game-objects + HUD-via-multiple-tiled-windows. In the same way that the original Mac Myst was a collection of Hypercard stacks. [1] Proto-GUIs are kinda my jam. Gotta know where we came from, and the paths (into darkness) not explored! And it's nice to have a reminder that everything doesn't have to start with building or buying a game engine. Weird is needed too. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathways_into_Darkness#Gameplay https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathways_into_Darkness#Gamep... [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst#Production https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst#Production
- cactusplant7374 2y ago
  Is there an emscripten version of Pathways into Darkness?
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2Gkashmiri 2y ago
I wonder how much efforts would it take libreoffice team to bring calc up to feature party with excel regarding vba in order to run files like these
martinlexow 2y ago
“We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us”
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galkk 2y ago
That's what I really want quite often. Have a game, but also enable to connect excel to stats/progress/merchants whatever data of it. It would be much faster and easier to work with some of it in the excel than navigate cumbersome game UIs
- lagniappe 2y ago
  Have you heard of Eve Online? It used to be a meme, but now it integrates with Excel, officially. https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/8165207770524-EVE-Online-Excel-Add-in https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/816520777052...
KingOfCoders 2y ago
OT: Bought Wasteland from the 80s today for $2.50 on Steam.
bronzekaiser 2y ago
Wanted to look at the VBA code but looks like its password protected A shame
- bronzekaiser 2y ago
  Looks like I can open it with LibreOffice calc Interesting https://i.imgur.com/rwjlX0L.png https://i.imgur.com/rwjlX0L.png
  - Narishma 2y ago
    Does the game itself work in LibreOffice? Edit: Just tried it. No, it doesn't. It loads but is unplayable.
CamatHN 2y ago
Reminds me of when I was younger and creating games in whatever tools I could get my hands on. Made some hover-mouse maze games in PowerPoint
- metaxy2 2y ago
  Hey, the original Myst was made in HyperCard!
- tetris11 2y ago
  I do miss actionscript in FlashMX, where you could click on an entity you just drew and insert entity specific code, independent from the main script, which was at tied to a specific global frame. It sounds horrendous now that I type it out, but ah it was such a free and chaotic way to program
- beezlebroxxxxxx 2y ago
  One of my older brother's friend was a great drawer and I remember him making very elaborate and impressively rendered animations using powerpoint when I was younger. He had a whole "series" going that I realize now, in hindsight, was an obvious DBZ knockoff. But, the creativity and the spirit of it all still stands out to me some 20 years later.
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inanutshellus 2y ago
I guess I misread "RPG" as "FPS" 'cuz I was expecting a game a la the "Hall of Tortured Souls" Wolfenstein/DOOM-like easter egg embedded in Excel 95: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbUk_n3iOgA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbUk_n3iOgA
wmab 2y ago
Watching the new Fallout show on Prime has made me miss the original Fallout and Fallout 2 games. This is great!
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icameron 2y ago
FYI on modern Windows you need to save it outside of the Temp or Downloads folder, and right-click and choose Unblock, then when you open it add to Trusted Documents in order for the macro enabled spreadsheet download to function. At least if you use the default security settings.
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qwerty456127 2y ago
Sounds cool but apparently is not compatible with Libre Office: > BASIC runtime error. '423' Property or method not found: TopLeftCell. I also tried exporting to XLS to try in Excel 97 on a Windows 95 dosbox but to my surprise (I couldn't expect this from a free fun project) this error encountered: The document you are about to export has one or more protected items with password that cannot be exported. Please re-type your password to be able to export your document.

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timeon 2y ago

> simplified version of DnD mechanics Isn't Fallout based on GURPS?

drbig 2y ago
I believe it wasn't ever, but there were paper adaptations that used GURPS as the base.
- thenipper 2y ago
  From what I recall is it was then they lost the license so they make SPECIAL
  - thenipper 2y ago
    Did some digging and found this: https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-rpg-origins-of-fallout-part-2-gurps.663838/ https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-rpg-origins-of-fallout-p...
hopw_roewur_ne 2y ago
Fallout 1 used GURPS in development, but Interplay lost the rights and they made their own system. Video by producer, designer, and lead programmer Tim Cain on the conversion process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgPwfHXiBjw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgPwfHXiBjw
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jprete 2y ago
My reading is that the author made a world and campaign in the Fallout style but implemented mechanics more like D&D.
amiga386 2y ago
It was meant to be, but: 1) they found it too complex for a game user interface, so they started to create a "GURPS-lite" 2) it was licensed from Steve Jackson Games, who didn't like the level of violence in the game. Thus began a fight over whether licensing even included veto rights on the entire game So in the end, they tweaked their "GURPS-lite" further, named it "SPECIAL", and abandoned the licensing deal https://web.archive.org/web/20151004175725/http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=60790 https://web.archive.org/web/20151004175725/http://www.nma-fa...

prophesi 2y ago

Is there a demonstration of this anywhere? I'd be hesitant to open a random Excel file.

__s 2y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-42-7L7B0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-42-7L7B0
- forgotpwd16 2y ago
  Seems they've made a few: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyN2mpPl_WGxaCd3QIcJ7bVM5Epows_jw https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyN2mpPl_WGxaCd3QIcJ7...
  - jcl 2y ago
    Looks like their “Baldur’s Gate” and “Fallout” games are practically identical, with similar overworld map and battle systems? https://storyteller-blog.com/2024/03/22/i-made-a-baldurs-gate-like-dnd-game-in-excel/ https://storyteller-blog.com/2024/03/22/i-made-a-baldurs-gat...
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  - beretguy 2y ago
    Is it more than 1 guy?
- prophesi 2y ago
  Thanks!
- lawlessone 2y ago
  omg it's actually interactive, i was expecting a spreadsheet.
- jeromechoo 2y ago

atum47 2y ago

Some screenshots or even a video would be nice.

hu3 2y ago

This is great! With that said, I'm not going to open random Excel Spreadsheets. But I imported to Google Sheets because I couldn't contain my curiosity. The game didn't work on Google Sheets but I could take some screenshots: Intro: https://i.imgur.com/m5NJuPn.png https://i.imgur.com/m5NJuPn.png Map: https://i.imgur.com/GHUSpnv.png https://i.imgur.com/GHUSpnv.png Stats: https://i.imgur.com/lMQPPdz.png https://i.imgur.com/lMQPPdz.png Battle: https://i.imgur.com/NIXnxKD.png https://i.imgur.com/NIXnxKD.png Information: https://i.imgur.com/fdn4aO4.png https://i.imgur.com/fdn4aO4.png If this could be ported to Google Sheets, it would be sensational. Players could copy the sheet online and play. No Excel needed.

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all2 2y ago
But if its on GSheets, it could be multiplayer.
- hu3 2y ago
  Indeed my friend. I wonder if we could implement anti-griefing and turn-based actions mechanisms using App Scripts: https://developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/sheets https://developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/sheets

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dschuetz 2y ago

Download this excel file, haha, no.

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erickhill 2y ago

I had no idea Excel was even capable of something like this. Incredible!

johncessna 2y ago
You can create a 3d engine with Excel! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCeOEQVUWZ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCeOEQVUWZ0
alok-g 2y ago
Something you may like: I had demonstrated several classical computer vision algorithms in Excel: https://github.com/amzn/computer-vision-basics-in-microsoft-excel https://github.com/amzn/computer-vision-basics-in-microsoft-... This was done using just built-in Excel formulas. No scripts/VBA.

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amarant 2y ago
"Spreadsheets in space on a spreadsheet" is my new favourite expletive for expressing shock!
shagie 2y ago
For a just spreadsheets (with a Bloomberg Terminal inspired interface) that scratches some of the EVE industry itches, give Prosperous Universe a glance https://prosperousuniverse.com https://prosperousuniverse.com . Remember that you're a CEO checks in once a day, says do these things and then goes and plays golf or mows the lawn - not a space ship pilot that needs to worry about gankers at the jump points.
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ethbr1 2y ago

If anyone is in the mood for throwback gaming, I highly recommend Pathways into Darkness (1993). [0] This was Bungie before Halo... before Marathon! Specifically, the UI, in which you see game designers grappling with resource and development limitations and creating a weird hybrid of a filesystem-storing-game-objects + HUD-via-multiple-tiled-windows. In the same way that the original Mac Myst was a collection of Hypercard stacks. [1] Proto-GUIs are kinda my jam. Gotta know where we came from, and the paths (into darkness) not explored! And it's nice to have a reminder that everything doesn't have to start with building or buying a game engine. Weird is needed too. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathways_into_Darkness#Gameplay https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathways_into_Darkness#Gamep... [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst#Production https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst#Production

cactusplant7374 2y ago
Is there an emscripten version of Pathways into Darkness?
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2Gkashmiri 2y ago

I wonder how much efforts would it take libreoffice team to bring calc up to feature party with excel regarding vba in order to run files like these

martinlexow 2y ago

“We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us”

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galkk 2y ago

That's what I really want quite often. Have a game, but also enable to connect excel to stats/progress/merchants whatever data of it. It would be much faster and easier to work with some of it in the excel than navigate cumbersome game UIs

lagniappe 2y ago
Have you heard of Eve Online? It used to be a meme, but now it integrates with Excel, officially. https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/8165207770524-EVE-Online-Excel-Add-in https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/816520777052...

KingOfCoders 2y ago

OT: Bought Wasteland from the 80s today for $2.50 on Steam.

bronzekaiser 2y ago

Wanted to look at the VBA code but looks like its password protected A shame

bronzekaiser 2y ago
Looks like I can open it with LibreOffice calc Interesting https://i.imgur.com/rwjlX0L.png https://i.imgur.com/rwjlX0L.png
- Narishma 2y ago
  Does the game itself work in LibreOffice? Edit: Just tried it. No, it doesn't. It loads but is unplayable.

CamatHN 2y ago

Reminds me of when I was younger and creating games in whatever tools I could get my hands on. Made some hover-mouse maze games in PowerPoint

metaxy2 2y ago
Hey, the original Myst was made in HyperCard!
tetris11 2y ago
I do miss actionscript in FlashMX, where you could click on an entity you just drew and insert entity specific code, independent from the main script, which was at tied to a specific global frame. It sounds horrendous now that I type it out, but ah it was such a free and chaotic way to program
beezlebroxxxxxx 2y ago
One of my older brother's friend was a great drawer and I remember him making very elaborate and impressively rendered animations using powerpoint when I was younger. He had a whole "series" going that I realize now, in hindsight, was an obvious DBZ knockoff. But, the creativity and the spirit of it all still stands out to me some 20 years later.

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inanutshellus 2y ago

I guess I misread "RPG" as "FPS" 'cuz I was expecting a game a la the "Hall of Tortured Souls" Wolfenstein/DOOM-like easter egg embedded in Excel 95: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbUk_n3iOgA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbUk_n3iOgA

wmab 2y ago

Watching the new Fallout show on Prime has made me miss the original Fallout and Fallout 2 games. This is great!

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icameron 2y ago

FYI on modern Windows you need to save it outside of the Temp or Downloads folder, and right-click and choose Unblock, then when you open it add to Trusted Documents in order for the macro enabled spreadsheet download to function. At least if you use the default security settings.

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qwerty456127 2y ago

Sounds cool but apparently is not compatible with Libre Office: > BASIC runtime error. '423' Property or method not found: TopLeftCell. I also tried exporting to XLS to try in Excel 97 on a Windows 95 dosbox but to my surprise (I couldn't expect this from a free fun project) this error encountered: The document you are about to export has one or more protected items with password that cannot be exported. Please re-type your password to be able to export your document.