> Or to ask your question in reverse, show me a place with a large amount of land area under permissive zoning that has higher housing costs than NYC or SF. Ul

> Or to ask your question in reverse, show me a place with a large amount of land area under permissive zoning that has higher housing costs than NYC or SF. Ultimately, the question I find most interesting is: Which cities have achieved very high density while maintaining a low cost of living (relative to local salaries)? We can debate "If only they did ..." forever, but if there are no actual cities where this has ever happened, maybe the answer is that it can't happen.