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Off-topic: Chai's license seems to be proprietary now. 7 months ago the license was AGPL as given by the LICENSE and README.md files [1][2]. 1 month ago, the LI

Off-topic: Chai's license seems to be proprietary now. 7 months ago the license was AGPL as given by the LICENSE and README.md files [1][2]. 1 month ago, the LICENSE file was changed to the text of the PolyForm Noncommercial License 1.0.0 [3], but the README.md still says AGPL. If Chai continues to use MuPDF (AGPL [4]), then isn't Chai's new license contradictory (unless the Chai developers got a license exception from Artifex Software)? [1] https://github.com/dosyago/chai/blob/a6b7fb50647ae001185bdc8347bb0cd6d14ed0f2/LICENSE https://github.com/dosyago/chai/blob/a6b7fb50647ae001185bdc8... [2] https://github.com/dosyago/chai/blob/a6b7fb50647ae001185bdc8347bb0cd6d14ed0f2/README.md https://github.com/dosyago/chai/blob/a6b7fb50647ae001185bdc8... [3] https://github.com/dosyago/chai/commit/45da5f12ab8a817dc4f7423967ef344b01426268 https://github.com/dosyago/chai/commit/45da5f12ab8a817dc4f74... [4] https://github.com/ArtifexSoftware/mupdf/blob/master/COPYING https://github.com/ArtifexSoftware/mupdf/blob/master/COPYING

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keepamovin 3y ago
Don't worry about it, you're confused, it's okay. Hahahaha! :) AGPL requires you release the source and we do that. As an aside — would be interesting to get Artifex's comment on this — but I'm not even sure it applies as we install the mutool binary via apt, call it from bash, and we don't modify or use their libraries at all. Would this even need to comply with AGPL at all? I don't know. If you'd carried on your search of our source a little bit further, you'd see we use the mutool binary: https://github.com/dosyago/chai/blob/37c1a1ec0941d81e0d6f8afac068126065bf98ff/scripts/convert.sh#L171 https://github.com/dosyago/chai/blob/37c1a1ec0941d81e0d6f8af... ; and you also may have discovered what the AGPL means: https://artifex.com/licensing/agpl/ https://artifex.com/licensing/agpl/ Hahahaha! :)
- lionkor 3y ago
  I would highly suggest you read the actual license text, because its a lot more than "just share the source".
  - keepamovin 3y ago
    Hahaha! :) You want to pretend we're doing something wrong, right? Okay you read it and point out something. Hahahaha! :) You know you're quoted "just share the source" comes from their page, right? Hahaha! :)
    - mfru 3y ago
      Hahaha!
      - keepamovin 3y ago
        Hehehe :)
    - lionkor 3y ago
      You need to share the source under the same license, you need to publish changes under the same license, and there are quite a few gotchas in relation to who you have to publish it to (not anyone who asks).
      - keepamovin 3y ago
        Haha! :) Oh I get you're confused. I was a confused a lot about licenses when I started out. I'm probably still confused a lot! Hahaha :) Another commenter has dealt with that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40105915 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40105915 This usage is considered "at arms length". If you're interested in chai, I encourage you to check out a way it's being used for real in this live demo of BrowserBox / CloudTabs: https://browse.cloudtabs.net/signupless_sessions https://browse.cloudtabs.net/signupless_sessions Search for a docx, PDF file whatever and you can convert to images without ever downloading to your device. We've got 6000+ users in 17 days on our Puter Browser app: https://puter.com/app/cloudtabs-browserbox https://puter.com/app/cloudtabs-browserbox We have a lot of exciting things coming soon, too. :)

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keepamovin 3y ago

Don't worry about it, you're confused, it's okay. Hahahaha! :) AGPL requires you release the source and we do that. As an aside — would be interesting to get Artifex's comment on this — but I'm not even sure it applies as we install the mutool binary via apt, call it from bash, and we don't modify or use their libraries at all. Would this even need to comply with AGPL at all? I don't know. If you'd carried on your search of our source a little bit further, you'd see we use the mutool binary: https://github.com/dosyago/chai/blob/37c1a1ec0941d81e0d6f8afac068126065bf98ff/scripts/convert.sh#L171 https://github.com/dosyago/chai/blob/37c1a1ec0941d81e0d6f8af... ; and you also may have discovered what the AGPL means: https://artifex.com/licensing/agpl/ https://artifex.com/licensing/agpl/ Hahahaha! :)

lionkor 3y ago
I would highly suggest you read the actual license text, because its a lot more than "just share the source".
- keepamovin 3y ago
  Hahaha! :) You want to pretend we're doing something wrong, right? Okay you read it and point out something. Hahahaha! :) You know you're quoted "just share the source" comes from their page, right? Hahaha! :)
  - mfru 3y ago
    Hahaha!
    - keepamovin 3y ago
      Hehehe :)
  - lionkor 3y ago
    You need to share the source under the same license, you need to publish changes under the same license, and there are quite a few gotchas in relation to who you have to publish it to (not anyone who asks).
    - keepamovin 3y ago
      Haha! :) Oh I get you're confused. I was a confused a lot about licenses when I started out. I'm probably still confused a lot! Hahaha :) Another commenter has dealt with that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40105915 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40105915 This usage is considered "at arms length". If you're interested in chai, I encourage you to check out a way it's being used for real in this live demo of BrowserBox / CloudTabs: https://browse.cloudtabs.net/signupless_sessions https://browse.cloudtabs.net/signupless_sessions Search for a docx, PDF file whatever and you can convert to images without ever downloading to your device. We've got 6000+ users in 17 days on our Puter Browser app: https://puter.com/app/cloudtabs-browserbox https://puter.com/app/cloudtabs-browserbox We have a lot of exciting things coming soon, too. :)