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only like vast majority, yes, i know
by lousken 3y ago
only like vast majority, yes, i know
- ocdtrekkie 3y agoWe'll see how long that remains the case when Microsoft can't keep the Chinese government out of its cloud.
- coryrc 3y agoYou think outsourced point-and-click administrators of company on-prem servers could do better?
- ocdtrekkie 3y agoYes. Managing Exchange is not that hard. Having everyone's eggs in one basket though is just dumb.
- ruszki 3y agoNot that hard for you. I think, you’re overestimating the average employee. At my current company, the maintainers absolutely don’t have a clue how it works, and they are completely unusable when there is a problem with it. They don’t know even the basic things, they just blindly follow transcripts from Microsoft, like telecallers.
- wolverine876 3y agoA valid point - you can't match Microsoft's resources and in-house expertise. But you are probably a much less appealing target. Also, you might be willing to lock it down more than Microsoft, which has to please all those millions of customers and wants to admin it at the lowest cost possible - including possibly minimizing support calls by using permissive settings - and not with the most security possible.
- ocdtrekkie 3y agoIndeed, one of my favorite inconvenient truths is that geo-blocking remains one of the most effective, and essentially free attack surface reductions you can make. If all your staff are in a country, there's no reason for your internal tools to be accessible from any other country. If all of your customers are in a country, there's no reason for any of your web presence to be accessible from any other country.
- lousken 3y ago100%, but they are still not really interested in onpremises exchange, at least the latest version is 2019 which is no longer in mainline support, only security with no new version announced these days it looks like every email is a teams message anyways, so unless they also release onpremise teams server, i don't see a future of exchange very bright maybe everyone will move to google workspace in the future?
- ocdtrekkie 3y agoTeams will crater in popularity once it's no longer bundled with Office 365. Nobody uses Teams because it's good, they use it because it was free with stuff they already had. 2019 is technically still receiving feature updates because of the delay of the new Exchange on-prem, though however that transition takes place will be wild.
- lousken 3y agoI don't think we will be able to get rid of teams that easily 1) it's a PITA to migrate teams accounts between tenants not mentioning migrating stuff off teams to another solution 2) companies use teams as "shared folders" in respective channels 3) copilot which enterprises even pay extra for
- insaneirish 3y ago> Teams will crater in popularity once it's no longer bundled with Office 365. Nobody uses Teams because it's good, they use it because it was free with stuff they already had. And what if the unbundling doesn't affect the price? Don't confuse MSFT making mediocre products with them being commercially stupid.