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It's worth noting that the ban is intended to be temporary. They want some more time to consider what the effects are [1] I get the idea, but I think it ends up

It's worth noting that the ban is intended to be temporary. They want some more time to consider what the effects are [1] I get the idea, but I think it ends up being a bit ham-fisted. There's a compromise path that works for everyone. The company I work for has hired a number of Canadians. There is a fair population of robotics companies and roboticists right around Toronto. [1] https://www.therobotreport.com/toronto-city-council-votes-to-ban-sidewalk-robots/ https://www.therobotreport.com/toronto-city-council-votes-to...

jessriedel 2y ago
Does anyone really think bills to ban something, even if temporary, are motivated by an honest desire for more time to "consider the effects" of something? Who is sitting around and doing this pondering? Does anyone's mind ever change? It seems to me people have made a decision, and then if they can't gather the majority for a permanent ban they compromise on a temporary one.
- ska 2y ago
  Sometimes, definitely. Other times it’s obstructionist.
- icegreentea2 2y ago
  I can't speak to the general case, but in this specific case, the city has decided to basically punt and wait for the province's plan. Is the province being slow? Maybe. https://www.ontariocanada.com/registry/view.do?postingId=39087&language=en https://www.ontariocanada.com/registry/view.do?postingId=390...
  - jessriedel 2y ago
    Not sure I understand. You’re raising a case in ON, distinct from the OP article discussing BC, right? Regardless, there are surely cases where one governing body delays a decision until action is taken by another governing body, or until a study is finished, or whatever. I’m talking about the claim that the delay is to give time for the issue to be “considered”.
    - icegreentea2 2y ago
      Sorry, sircastor's message that you replied to was about Toronto/ON.
      - jessriedel 2y ago
        Oh gotcha, my mistake.
- Terr_ 2y ago
  > Does anyone really think [there is an] honest desire for more time to "consider the effects" of something? Sometimes it might translate to: "We don't want to be the experimental guinea-pig, let someone else try first..." "... So we honestly desire more time to consider the effects that will have happened to them."
  - jessriedel 2y ago
    Then they should say so :)
Uvix 2y ago
If it was really intended to be temporary, it would have included a sunset clause.

jessriedel 2y ago

Does anyone really think bills to ban something, even if temporary, are motivated by an honest desire for more time to "consider the effects" of something? Who is sitting around and doing this pondering? Does anyone's mind ever change? It seems to me people have made a decision, and then if they can't gather the majority for a permanent ban they compromise on a temporary one.

ska 2y ago
Sometimes, definitely. Other times it’s obstructionist.
icegreentea2 2y ago
I can't speak to the general case, but in this specific case, the city has decided to basically punt and wait for the province's plan. Is the province being slow? Maybe. https://www.ontariocanada.com/registry/view.do?postingId=39087&language=en https://www.ontariocanada.com/registry/view.do?postingId=390...
- jessriedel 2y ago
  Not sure I understand. You’re raising a case in ON, distinct from the OP article discussing BC, right? Regardless, there are surely cases where one governing body delays a decision until action is taken by another governing body, or until a study is finished, or whatever. I’m talking about the claim that the delay is to give time for the issue to be “considered”.
  - icegreentea2 2y ago
    Sorry, sircastor's message that you replied to was about Toronto/ON.
    - jessriedel 2y ago
      Oh gotcha, my mistake.
Terr_ 2y ago
> Does anyone really think [there is an] honest desire for more time to "consider the effects" of something? Sometimes it might translate to: "We don't want to be the experimental guinea-pig, let someone else try first..." "... So we honestly desire more time to consider the effects that will have happened to them."
- jessriedel 2y ago
  Then they should say so :)

Uvix 2y ago

If it was really intended to be temporary, it would have included a sunset clause.