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This. It matters how you achieve level three. MBs solution requires a lot of legwork to build the datasets describing the specific roads where the L3 capability
by RichardHesketh 2y ago
This. It matters how you achieve level three. MBs solution requires a lot of legwork to build the datasets describing the specific roads where the L3 capability can then operate. There’s a massive amount to do in this approach to even come close to supporting a useful subset of all roads in their key markets.
To my mind, Tesla is playing a long game betting on achieving a more generalised solution that doesn’t rely on having a detailed database encompassing every inch of many roads in vast amounts of detail that have to be captured in a costly, resource intensive effort. That, or their vast fleet of vehicles is gathering the data for them to leapfrog the likes of MB to higher levels of autonomy using a fused approach in the future. No other manufacturer yet has a comparable on the road data gathering capability. It’s a matter of opinion right now which of these stands a better chance of succeeding at higher levels of autonomy alone - the best chance may be a synthesis of both, or something else entirely. Fanboy holy wars aren’t going to resolve any of this.
- BoorishBears 2y agoDefinitely takes something to imply someone working in the space (on actual self-driving, not faked demos and empty promises) is engaging in a "fanboy holy war". The simple fact is Mercedes made a massive leap that other manufacturers have not been able too, despite repeat implications they would do so many years ago. The fact that some of the existing L2 systems can even be activated on non-major highways is a farce, and overall this is a lot of waxing poetic about what could be, vs what is. - > He’s forever talking up hard stuff where the timeline always turns out longer than his prediction - well, he would say that wouldn’t he? Needs to keep people buying shares - albeit balancing that against losing credibility Actually, I can see why someone saying this stuff with a straight face would assume everyone else is also a fanboy of something.