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So much bias in your comment. > TikTok has (allegedly) shared US customer data overseas. When discussing a law let's not discuss alleged things, be precise an

So much bias in your comment. > TikTok has (allegedly) shared US customer data overseas. When discussing a law let's not discuss alleged things, be precise and talk about facts, was it done or not? > And they’re effectively controlled by an adversarial state. Do you think everything in this world should be controlled by the USA? > And that state doesn’t reciprocate by letting US companies freely operate social media services there. So ban it. Can you please remind me the USA is a democracy? if it is a democracy, then it should not compare itself to other forms of governments and how they operate. Every country has its laws, companies should abide by them, and the USA as far as I am aware was a proponent of free trade, capitalism and democracy

empthought 3y ago
There is no constitutional freedom to own a company, nor is there a constitutional right for any particular company to exist.
MilnerRoute 3y ago
TikTok managers overseeing the protection of U.S. data "sometimes instruct workers to share data with colleagues in other parts of the company and with ByteDance workers without going through official channels, according to current and former employees and internal documents viewed by The Wall Street Journal." https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/tiktok-pledged-to-protect-us-data-15-billion-later-it-s-still-struggling/ar-BB1htDhj https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/tiktok-pledged-to-prot...
blackeyeblitzar 3y ago
> When discussing a law let's not discuss alleged things, be precise and talk about facts, was it done or not? You know full well that it’s not possible to monitor or examine what these companies do, because we don’t have total transparency. > So much bias in your comment. The bias isn’t with me, but with you. Obviously you could have taken one second to do a search and find numerous articles on this, such as this one, where TikTok ADMITTED to storing US data in China, which means they lied under oath. That’s why a divestment is not enough to trust them: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2023/06/21/tiktok-confirms-data-china-bytedance-security-cfius/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2023/06/21/tikt... > Do you think everything in this world should be controlled by the USA? I think the CCP is a corrupt authoritarian regime that used violent revolution and force to come into power and stay there. Most people don’t trust such regimes to control anything. It’s not about the US, or even Chinese people, but about Chinese leadership. > Every country has its laws, companies should abide by them, and the USA as far as I am aware was a proponent of free trade, capitalism and democracy I’m not sure what point you’re making. Banning TikTok worldwide would be consistent with all three.
zeroonetwothree 3y ago
Non-adversarial state doesn’t mean the US only. Don’t strawman.
overstay8930 3y ago
> So much bias in your comment. It is perfectly okay to be biased against China, they are biased against my rights as a human. They do not deserve the benefit of the doubt, they don’t give those who “disappear” for speaking out against their government the benefit of the doubt either.
AnimalMuppet 3y ago
> > And they’re effectively controlled by an adversarial state. > Do you think everything in this world should be controlled by the USA? I think that things that pump directly into the minds of the American public should not be controlled by adversaries of America. That is different from what you said, and the difference matters.

empthought 3y ago

There is no constitutional freedom to own a company, nor is there a constitutional right for any particular company to exist.

MilnerRoute 3y ago

TikTok managers overseeing the protection of U.S. data "sometimes instruct workers to share data with colleagues in other parts of the company and with ByteDance workers without going through official channels, according to current and former employees and internal documents viewed by The Wall Street Journal." https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/tiktok-pledged-to-protect-us-data-15-billion-later-it-s-still-struggling/ar-BB1htDhj https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/tiktok-pledged-to-prot...

blackeyeblitzar 3y ago

> When discussing a law let's not discuss alleged things, be precise and talk about facts, was it done or not? You know full well that it’s not possible to monitor or examine what these companies do, because we don’t have total transparency. > So much bias in your comment. The bias isn’t with me, but with you. Obviously you could have taken one second to do a search and find numerous articles on this, such as this one, where TikTok ADMITTED to storing US data in China, which means they lied under oath. That’s why a divestment is not enough to trust them: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2023/06/21/tiktok-confirms-data-china-bytedance-security-cfius/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2023/06/21/tikt... > Do you think everything in this world should be controlled by the USA? I think the CCP is a corrupt authoritarian regime that used violent revolution and force to come into power and stay there. Most people don’t trust such regimes to control anything. It’s not about the US, or even Chinese people, but about Chinese leadership. > Every country has its laws, companies should abide by them, and the USA as far as I am aware was a proponent of free trade, capitalism and democracy I’m not sure what point you’re making. Banning TikTok worldwide would be consistent with all three.

zeroonetwothree 3y ago

Non-adversarial state doesn’t mean the US only. Don’t strawman.

overstay8930 3y ago

> So much bias in your comment. It is perfectly okay to be biased against China, they are biased against my rights as a human. They do not deserve the benefit of the doubt, they don’t give those who “disappear” for speaking out against their government the benefit of the doubt either.

AnimalMuppet 3y ago

> > And they’re effectively controlled by an adversarial state. > Do you think everything in this world should be controlled by the USA? I think that things that pump directly into the minds of the American public should not be controlled by adversaries of America. That is different from what you said, and the difference matters.