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Palestine has been offered ceasefire, two state solution, and etc. They have refused to take it. They fired thousands of missiles at Israel. Their army hide und

Palestine has been offered ceasefire, two state solution, and etc. They have refused to take it. They fired thousands of missiles at Israel. Their army hide under hospital and schools. You declare "verifiably" and "we must recognize genocide" when it is not. It's a war. Then, after you declare a genocide, you follow with "it's your duty!" You are looking to harass anyone who disagrees with you. People can't even be neutral on the topic and recognize it's debatable. There's no discourse to be had. This is why people like this should be fired from a workplace.

runarberg 2y ago
Hamas has been in support of all ceasefire resolution to date, Hamas has attended every truce talk to date. Israel, however has been in opposition to every ceasefire resolution to date, and has boycotted or walked away from most truce talks. It is true that Palestine has rejected a two-state solution in the past, however those deals contained what many considered a poison pill for Palestinians, it is disputed among international experts whether those deals were indeed acceptable for Palestinians. Meanwhile Israel has worked hard in making any future two-state solutions impossible. They fired thousands of missiles at Israel, however Israel has killed thousands of Palestinians. If you take issue with Palestinians you must have an order of magnitude greater issue with Israel. Your parent is far from the only person to declare genocide. Many countries and international organizations have done so. The world highest court has ruled it is plausible that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. Genocide is the highest crime there is. You should do everything in your power to stop it. In 1993 Steven Spielberg released a very popular movie based on a true story about a factory owner in Germany who took issue with the fact that his government was using his products to commit genocide. Instead of simply following orders, he tried to save as many people as possible by hiring potential victims and making sure his products were faulty and unusable for the state doing the genocide. The protagonist in this movie was a hero. Most people in Germany however simply went to work and did what they were told. Millions of people died in that genocide. Let’s not repeat history.
- ergocoder 2y ago
  > Hamas has been in support of all ceasefire resolution to date This is already false. Hamas violated ceasefires multiple times within the last 6 months alone. > Meanwhile Israel has worked hard in making any future two-state solutions impossible This is also false. Hamas's charter is to annihilate Israel. It is written in their charter. Yet you solely blame Israel. On the flip side, does Israel have a charter to annihilate Palestine? Nope. > Your parent is far from the only person to declare genocide. There are also many people not seeing it as genocide. This is exactly my original point of people like you who bring politics into a workplace. They don't even recognize other people's opinions here. Again, this is at maximum debatable. It's not a set-in-stone topic like you are making it to be.
  - runarberg 2y ago
    People also denied the holocaust back in 1944. I’m sure there were people telling Schindler that he shouldn’t be messing with politics and just do his job well. Those were differing opinions for sure, but the genocide deniers were both morally wrong and factually wrong. BTW. Hamas does not have the annihilation of Israel in their charter anymore, only the annihilation of the Apartheid system which discriminates Palestinians, and denies displaced Palestinians the right of return. One can demand the destruction of a state without any harm to the people, that was the case for the ANC who worked successfully to destroy the state of Apartheid South Africa.

runarberg 2y ago

Hamas has been in support of all ceasefire resolution to date, Hamas has attended every truce talk to date. Israel, however has been in opposition to every ceasefire resolution to date, and has boycotted or walked away from most truce talks. It is true that Palestine has rejected a two-state solution in the past, however those deals contained what many considered a poison pill for Palestinians, it is disputed among international experts whether those deals were indeed acceptable for Palestinians. Meanwhile Israel has worked hard in making any future two-state solutions impossible. They fired thousands of missiles at Israel, however Israel has killed thousands of Palestinians. If you take issue with Palestinians you must have an order of magnitude greater issue with Israel. Your parent is far from the only person to declare genocide. Many countries and international organizations have done so. The world highest court has ruled it is plausible that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. Genocide is the highest crime there is. You should do everything in your power to stop it. In 1993 Steven Spielberg released a very popular movie based on a true story about a factory owner in Germany who took issue with the fact that his government was using his products to commit genocide. Instead of simply following orders, he tried to save as many people as possible by hiring potential victims and making sure his products were faulty and unusable for the state doing the genocide. The protagonist in this movie was a hero. Most people in Germany however simply went to work and did what they were told. Millions of people died in that genocide. Let’s not repeat history.

ergocoder 2y ago
> Hamas has been in support of all ceasefire resolution to date This is already false. Hamas violated ceasefires multiple times within the last 6 months alone. > Meanwhile Israel has worked hard in making any future two-state solutions impossible This is also false. Hamas's charter is to annihilate Israel. It is written in their charter. Yet you solely blame Israel. On the flip side, does Israel have a charter to annihilate Palestine? Nope. > Your parent is far from the only person to declare genocide. There are also many people not seeing it as genocide. This is exactly my original point of people like you who bring politics into a workplace. They don't even recognize other people's opinions here. Again, this is at maximum debatable. It's not a set-in-stone topic like you are making it to be.
- runarberg 2y ago
  People also denied the holocaust back in 1944. I’m sure there were people telling Schindler that he shouldn’t be messing with politics and just do his job well. Those were differing opinions for sure, but the genocide deniers were both morally wrong and factually wrong. BTW. Hamas does not have the annihilation of Israel in their charter anymore, only the annihilation of the Apartheid system which discriminates Palestinians, and denies displaced Palestinians the right of return. One can demand the destruction of a state without any harm to the people, that was the case for the ANC who worked successfully to destroy the state of Apartheid South Africa.