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This was going to pass regardless of the outcry. The unnecessary drama of stalling until after midnight is all theater. We need a significant change in leaders

by xyst 3y ago

This was going to pass regardless of the outcry. The unnecessary drama of stalling until after midnight is all theater. We need a significant change in leadership for all those that voted this in. If I recall correctly, this bill also includes an expansion of surveillance performed by federal law enforcement agencies and NSA.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> This was going to pass regardless of the outcry There was a real moment in the House where it might not have, at least without a warrant requirement. My Congresswoman was one of the attack dogs on this issue. She thought they would get an outpouring of support. She didn’t. The call sheets registered basically zero calls in support, and several lobbying against. So she caved. (This is a pattern I saw play out in New York years earlier in another privacy battle.) > The unnecessary drama of stalling until after midnight is all theater Sort of. The Senate calendar is funky. Putting it at the end of the roll was theatre. Having something voted on after midnight was not.
- user_7832 3y ago
  > There was a real moment in the House where it might not have, at least without a warrant requirement. My Congresswoman was one of the attack dogs on this issue. She thought they would get an outpouring of support. She didn’t. The call sheets registered basically zero calls in support, and several lobbying against. So she caved. (This is a pattern I saw play out in New York years earlier in another privacy battle.) What's odd/interesting to me is that there's been little chatter of late regarding this. I spend an unhealthy amount of time on HN/Reddit/X and save for a few mild posts (as opposed to alarmist or clickbaity) on the topic, I barely see anything. During the net neutrality thing back when Ajit Pai was around I remember there was massive support. And I don't think I've ever heard of the NY privacy thing you mention. I wonder why it's so.
  - FezzikTheGiant 3y ago
    Hey, I replied to your comment about building an open source version of Aqua Voice. Emailed you about it too. Let me know your thoughts.
- int_19h 3y ago
  I think at this point most people just assume that this kind of stuff is a foregone conclusion, because they pass it every time without much of a fight (when you compare it to other matters) despite it being strongly disliked across the political spectrum.
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by xyst 3y ago

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> This was going to pass regardless of the outcry There was a real moment in the House where it might not have, at least without a warrant requirement. My Congresswoman was one of the attack dogs on this issue. She thought they would get an outpouring of support. She didn’t. The call sheets registered basically zero calls in support, and several lobbying against. So she caved. (This is a pattern I saw play out in New York years earlier in another privacy battle.) > The unnecessary drama of stalling until after midnight is all theater Sort of. The Senate calendar is funky. Putting it at the end of the roll was theatre. Having something voted on after midnight was not.

user_7832 3y ago
> There was a real moment in the House where it might not have, at least without a warrant requirement. My Congresswoman was one of the attack dogs on this issue. She thought they would get an outpouring of support. She didn’t. The call sheets registered basically zero calls in support, and several lobbying against. So she caved. (This is a pattern I saw play out in New York years earlier in another privacy battle.) What's odd/interesting to me is that there's been little chatter of late regarding this. I spend an unhealthy amount of time on HN/Reddit/X and save for a few mild posts (as opposed to alarmist or clickbaity) on the topic, I barely see anything. During the net neutrality thing back when Ajit Pai was around I remember there was massive support. And I don't think I've ever heard of the NY privacy thing you mention. I wonder why it's so.
- FezzikTheGiant 3y ago
  Hey, I replied to your comment about building an open source version of Aqua Voice. Emailed you about it too. Let me know your thoughts.
int_19h 3y ago
I think at this point most people just assume that this kind of stuff is a foregone conclusion, because they pass it every time without much of a fight (when you compare it to other matters) despite it being strongly disliked across the political spectrum.

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