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It's suspicious in this single instance to suddenly care about reciprocity, having never really had a concern in the decades prior. These people would audibly

It's suspicious in this single instance to suddenly care about reciprocity, having never really had a concern in the decades prior. These people would audibly gasp if you suggested in their presence that tariffs should be equal to what China taxes US firms. Why this? Why now?

karaterobot 2y ago
Say more about this. I can't figure out what this means. Are you referring to the person you're responding to, or to Congress? I don't know about the parent commenter, but trade wars and economic punishments seem to be in Congress' toolbox already!
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JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> tariffs should be equal to what China taxes US firms We’ve been in a trade war with China for 6 years [1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_trade_war https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_...
- willcipriano 2y ago
  "We"? that was more of a DJT thing, he was lambasted for it, the security state wanted TPP. They call stepping away from it a mistake.
  - brigadier132 2y ago
    TPP was a strategy to counter China's growing influence, it wouldn't have benefited them.
    - willcipriano 2y ago
      Been a lot of high minded "strategy" like that. Hasn't really been working out. I don't think China's influence was growing, ours is just shrinking, you can only lose so many wars to farmers before people stop taking you seriously. Also, I don't how you have a TPP with a country that you don't allow to own a website.
      - brigadier132 2y ago
        I think you are misinformed, China would not have been part of TPP.
    - faeriechangling 2y ago
      Also a strategy to lengthen copyright/IP terms around the world for the sake of “harmonization”, harmonization meaning raise the terms to what US lobbyists negotiated there. It’s a miracle that the TPP went down in flames. It had great marketing as an anti-China bill but mostly served to enrich a small minority of notorious tax evaders, namely companies that revolve around state granted monopolies to Intellectual Property.
brigadier132 2y ago
It turns out when you slowly raise the temperature of a pot with a frog in it, it eventually hurts it.
flappyeagle 2y ago
You must be willingly blind to the tariff skirmishes that have been playing out over the last 8 years

karaterobot 2y ago

Say more about this. I can't figure out what this means. Are you referring to the person you're responding to, or to Congress? I don't know about the parent commenter, but trade wars and economic punishments seem to be in Congress' toolbox already!

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JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> tariffs should be equal to what China taxes US firms We’ve been in a trade war with China for 6 years [1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_trade_war https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_...

willcipriano 2y ago
"We"? that was more of a DJT thing, he was lambasted for it, the security state wanted TPP. They call stepping away from it a mistake.
- brigadier132 2y ago
  TPP was a strategy to counter China's growing influence, it wouldn't have benefited them.
  - willcipriano 2y ago
    Been a lot of high minded "strategy" like that. Hasn't really been working out. I don't think China's influence was growing, ours is just shrinking, you can only lose so many wars to farmers before people stop taking you seriously. Also, I don't how you have a TPP with a country that you don't allow to own a website.
    - brigadier132 2y ago
      I think you are misinformed, China would not have been part of TPP.
  - faeriechangling 2y ago
    Also a strategy to lengthen copyright/IP terms around the world for the sake of “harmonization”, harmonization meaning raise the terms to what US lobbyists negotiated there. It’s a miracle that the TPP went down in flames. It had great marketing as an anti-China bill but mostly served to enrich a small minority of notorious tax evaders, namely companies that revolve around state granted monopolies to Intellectual Property.

brigadier132 2y ago

It turns out when you slowly raise the temperature of a pot with a frog in it, it eventually hurts it.

flappyeagle 2y ago

You must be willingly blind to the tariff skirmishes that have been playing out over the last 8 years