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> “commute on clogged California highways” It’s embarrassing for Tesla because they pretended they had this solved and practically ready to ship eight years ag

by pavlov 3y ago

> “commute on clogged California highways” It’s embarrassing for Tesla because they pretended they had this solved and practically ready to ship eight years ago, started taking customer money; still take customer money on promises of “Real Soon Now”; and yet it’s a bunch of staid old Germans who actually ship it.

heyoni 3y ago
I’m so glad I didn’t fall for it. Nearly bought one, then took it for a test drive at the dealership and it couldn’t even make a left turn correctly. Then I rented one on another trip because I wanted to test it more extensively and the car locked up because I activated some stupid easter egg that started playing a song with an animated gif all over the screen…even getting out of the car and locking it didn’t stop the damn thing and I literally just had to sit on the side of the road and wait it out. The weird thing is I haven’t been able to find that easter egg mentioned anywhere.
kmacdough 3y ago
I'd hold off on the complements, we haven't seen the Mercedes on the road yet.
- drivingmenuts 3y ago
  Even if the self-driving bit sucks, you're still getting a pretty decent car, which is more than Tesla should be allowed to claim.
- cycomanic 3y ago
  We have seen those cars on the road for a while (this has been over the news for quite a bit already), they just didn't market the tech as L3 due to legal reasons. Also the liability cover clearly shows a level of confidence above that of other car makers. Yes it is a very limited, but it is still quite a bit ahead of everyone else and if you're thinking we will get full selfdriving on any roads under any conditions in the near future than I think you're kidding yourself. The failure modes I have observed in driver assist (which is much easier than full self driving) with several car makes, really shows the tech is nowhere close yet.
freetinker 3y ago
I don’t quite understand Tesla’s insistence on vision-only. I don’t believe vision-only “FSD” will ever be good enough for mass adoption – even if it performs at human-level. Autonomous systems need to be better than humans to gain acceptance, and that’s simply not possible with a vision-only let’s-mimic-humans approach.

by pavlov 3y ago

heyoni 3y ago

I’m so glad I didn’t fall for it. Nearly bought one, then took it for a test drive at the dealership and it couldn’t even make a left turn correctly. Then I rented one on another trip because I wanted to test it more extensively and the car locked up because I activated some stupid easter egg that started playing a song with an animated gif all over the screen…even getting out of the car and locking it didn’t stop the damn thing and I literally just had to sit on the side of the road and wait it out. The weird thing is I haven’t been able to find that easter egg mentioned anywhere.

kmacdough 3y ago

I'd hold off on the complements, we haven't seen the Mercedes on the road yet.

drivingmenuts 3y ago
Even if the self-driving bit sucks, you're still getting a pretty decent car, which is more than Tesla should be allowed to claim.
cycomanic 3y ago
We have seen those cars on the road for a while (this has been over the news for quite a bit already), they just didn't market the tech as L3 due to legal reasons. Also the liability cover clearly shows a level of confidence above that of other car makers. Yes it is a very limited, but it is still quite a bit ahead of everyone else and if you're thinking we will get full selfdriving on any roads under any conditions in the near future than I think you're kidding yourself. The failure modes I have observed in driver assist (which is much easier than full self driving) with several car makes, really shows the tech is nowhere close yet.

freetinker 3y ago

I don’t quite understand Tesla’s insistence on vision-only. I don’t believe vision-only “FSD” will ever be good enough for mass adoption – even if it performs at human-level. Autonomous systems need to be better than humans to gain acceptance, and that’s simply not possible with a vision-only let’s-mimic-humans approach.