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> or we drop support for Android TV before API-30, and all our users on TV API<30 can’t get fixes. The answer to this one is obvious. Drop support for API <30.

by dangus 3y ago

> or we drop support for Android TV before API-30, and all our users on TV API<30 can’t get fixes. The answer to this one is obvious. Drop support for API <30. The older version of the app will work well enough for those users. At present nobody is getting updates. Giving updates to everyone >=31 is an improvement to the status quo. Don’t bother with the Windows Store or Mac App Store. Those users don’t need app stores. I think it’s not up to the individual developers to make these platforms a good place for their users. The platform owners already control that fate. If your Android TV device becomes a brick with apps that can’t be updated after ~5 years that should teach the customer to find something else next time.

Wowfunhappy 3y ago
> The answer to this one is obvious. Drop support for API <30. The older version of the app will work well enough for those users. > At present nobody is getting updates. Giving updates to everyone >=31 is an improvement to the status quo. Would a user who does not already have VLC installed be able to download it in this scenario?
ravetcofx 3y ago
Windows Store is needed for users On Windows 10/11 S mode and Windows on ARM I believe.
- dangus 3y ago
  So like, 10 people? I don't even know where you buy a computer that comes with S mode, my understanding is that it was massively unpopular, and you can turn off S mode. Windows on ARM can install software outside of the Windows Store, and VLC offers an EXE binary for it.
- nosrepa 3y ago
  That mode can be unlocked via the windows store iirc.
david_allison 3y ago
API >=30 is ~60% of Android devices, it's a significant number of users and adds significantly to e-waste
- flas9sd 3y ago
  off by a line - 75% according to apilevels.com / statcounter. But true, apilevel pace is relentless
  - david_allison 3y ago
    Interesting! Thanks Android Studio [Iguana | 2023.2.1 Patch 2 | Built April 4 2024] states that for minSDK API 30, an app will run on 59.8% of devices.
alerighi 3y ago
> At present nobody is getting updates. Giving updates to everyone >=31 is an improvement to the status quo. Well for who already has the app installed, but if one is on API <30 and wants to install VLC from the Play Store, it can't.
- dangus 3y ago
  Split the app then. Rename the current one to VLC (Legacy) and publish the new versions in a new app.

by dangus 3y ago

Wowfunhappy 3y ago

> The answer to this one is obvious. Drop support for API <30. The older version of the app will work well enough for those users. > At present nobody is getting updates. Giving updates to everyone >=31 is an improvement to the status quo. Would a user who does not already have VLC installed be able to download it in this scenario?

ravetcofx 3y ago

Windows Store is needed for users On Windows 10/11 S mode and Windows on ARM I believe.

dangus 3y ago
So like, 10 people? I don't even know where you buy a computer that comes with S mode, my understanding is that it was massively unpopular, and you can turn off S mode. Windows on ARM can install software outside of the Windows Store, and VLC offers an EXE binary for it.
nosrepa 3y ago
That mode can be unlocked via the windows store iirc.

david_allison 3y ago

API >=30 is ~60% of Android devices, it's a significant number of users and adds significantly to e-waste

flas9sd 3y ago
off by a line - 75% according to apilevels.com / statcounter. But true, apilevel pace is relentless
- david_allison 3y ago
  Interesting! Thanks Android Studio [Iguana | 2023.2.1 Patch 2 | Built April 4 2024] states that for minSDK API 30, an app will run on 59.8% of devices.

alerighi 3y ago

> At present nobody is getting updates. Giving updates to everyone >=31 is an improvement to the status quo. Well for who already has the app installed, but if one is on API <30 and wants to install VLC from the Play Store, it can't.

dangus 3y ago
Split the app then. Rename the current one to VLC (Legacy) and publish the new versions in a new app.