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the fact remains that KPCB failed to address these concerns in a responsible manner and chose to make attempts at silencing her in various ways Without knowing

the fact remains that KPCB failed to address these concerns in a responsible manner and chose to make attempts at silencing her in various ways Without knowing more details, how can you state the above so confidently? You cite a few sentences from a review which are pretty hard to interpret without context. You are hinting that the word "acceptance" points at a conspiracy by The Group against women or this woman. I have no idea how you can be convinced of that merely by reading the contents of the initial filing.

throwawaytemp 14y ago
Without knowing more details, how can you state the above so confidently? It's safe to assume that Ellen is a smart woman who realises the risk this poses to her career, and any smart person wouldn't wish to burn the progress they have made over years for some mythical "pay day." That's why I can say with some amount of confidence that KPCB failed to address concerns in a responsible manner and let things come this far. To quote from the filing; Upon information and belief, Ray Lane and John Doerr discussed how to respond to to Plaintiff. Ray Lane met with Plaintiff. While acknowledging that Mr. Nazre's behavior was inappropriate Mr. Lane pressured Plaintiff to drop the matter because of Mr. Lane''s close ties with and mentorship of Mr. Nazre. Though Plaintiff had formally cmplained about Mr. Nazre's behavior, Mr. Lane encouraged Plaintiff to engage in a personal relationship with Mr. Nazre and even to marry him. Mr. Lane said, however, that in such case, either Plaintiff or Mr. Nazre would have to leave the firm because two spouses could not work together at KPCB. Mr. Lane said he and Mr. Nazre had discussed Plaintiff's report of sexual harrassment. KPCB was aware of and did not take reasonable steps to prevent retaliation and gender discrimination. KPC management was aware of and did not prevent Mr. Nazre from engaging in repeated retaliatory behavior for nearly five years. Following her formal complaint described above, Ray Lane insisted that Plaintiff have a one-on-one lunch with Mr. Nazre outside the office to discuss their relationship. Plaintiff saw no choice but to comply with the demand of a Managing Partner. Unsurprisingly, Mr. Nazre made inappropriate comments and engaged in unprofessional behavior, and seemed to be further empowered by KPCB to further retaliate against her. ... and we wonder why there aren't more women in tech.
- throwawaytempo 14y ago
  > It's safe to assume that Ellen is a smart woman who realises the risk this poses to her career, and any smart person wouldn't wish to burn the progress they have made over years for some mythical "pay day." Uhm. No. That's not proof, that's not conclusive. What're you doing here, and the things you're saying, they are extremely dangerous. Actual proof is ... you know, proof! And only that, not convenient speculation, that happens to align with an outcome of your affinity. I notice you're using a throw away account. So with my throw away account, I'll voice my suspicion that you have some form of involvement in this suit, as you seem to be quite eager in this thread to establish a certain, interesting tone, and formalize a certain set of opinions. > ... and we wonder why there aren't more women in tech. ... and I wonder why it's not surprising that around 10% of rape accusations turn out to be false [1]. Oh wait, maybe I've an idea now. [1]: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/1996/96sec2.pdf http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/1996/9...

throwawaytemp 14y ago

Without knowing more details, how can you state the above so confidently? It's safe to assume that Ellen is a smart woman who realises the risk this poses to her career, and any smart person wouldn't wish to burn the progress they have made over years for some mythical "pay day." That's why I can say with some amount of confidence that KPCB failed to address concerns in a responsible manner and let things come this far. To quote from the filing; Upon information and belief, Ray Lane and John Doerr discussed how to respond to to Plaintiff. Ray Lane met with Plaintiff. While acknowledging that Mr. Nazre's behavior was inappropriate Mr. Lane pressured Plaintiff to drop the matter because of Mr. Lane''s close ties with and mentorship of Mr. Nazre. Though Plaintiff had formally cmplained about Mr. Nazre's behavior, Mr. Lane encouraged Plaintiff to engage in a personal relationship with Mr. Nazre and even to marry him. Mr. Lane said, however, that in such case, either Plaintiff or Mr. Nazre would have to leave the firm because two spouses could not work together at KPCB. Mr. Lane said he and Mr. Nazre had discussed Plaintiff's report of sexual harrassment. KPCB was aware of and did not take reasonable steps to prevent retaliation and gender discrimination. KPC management was aware of and did not prevent Mr. Nazre from engaging in repeated retaliatory behavior for nearly five years. Following her formal complaint described above, Ray Lane insisted that Plaintiff have a one-on-one lunch with Mr. Nazre outside the office to discuss their relationship. Plaintiff saw no choice but to comply with the demand of a Managing Partner. Unsurprisingly, Mr. Nazre made inappropriate comments and engaged in unprofessional behavior, and seemed to be further empowered by KPCB to further retaliate against her. ... and we wonder why there aren't more women in tech.

throwawaytempo 14y ago
> It's safe to assume that Ellen is a smart woman who realises the risk this poses to her career, and any smart person wouldn't wish to burn the progress they have made over years for some mythical "pay day." Uhm. No. That's not proof, that's not conclusive. What're you doing here, and the things you're saying, they are extremely dangerous. Actual proof is ... you know, proof! And only that, not convenient speculation, that happens to align with an outcome of your affinity. I notice you're using a throw away account. So with my throw away account, I'll voice my suspicion that you have some form of involvement in this suit, as you seem to be quite eager in this thread to establish a certain, interesting tone, and formalize a certain set of opinions. > ... and we wonder why there aren't more women in tech. ... and I wonder why it's not surprising that around 10% of rape accusations turn out to be false [1]. Oh wait, maybe I've an idea now. [1]: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/1996/96sec2.pdf http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/1996/9...