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Neither of those things are a nonprofit. I wonder if you read the comment at all?

rpgbr 3y ago
Mastodon is a non-profit: https://joinmastodon.org/about https://joinmastodon.org/about
sebastiennight 3y ago
First, as a quick meta-response about the tone of your comment, please read HN guidelines[0]: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. [...] Edit out swipes. And regarding the GP comment, which says: >So you were growing, but not enough to keep investors happy, who would eventually throttle the product for every bit of return once it had even a smidgen of community momentum around it, and turn it into the same ad-filled mess that are the current alternatives. Where are the not-for-profits in this space? I'm assuming GP means he's looking for something: - Not optimizing for ROI after getting community momentum - Not ad-driven or ad-filled - Run by a non-profit In which case, yes, a very large portion of the Fediverse fits all three. I have never seen a single ad-supported instance of Mastodon, PixelFed, Lemmy, Diaspora, Friendica, Hubzilla, Funkwhale, Misskey or PeerTube. They might exist, and there are some big servers that have used/forked Mastodon for commercial purposes (eg Gab, Truth Social...) but they are not considered to be part of the Fediverse and are scarcely "federated" with anyone. Interestingly enough, "ad revenue" is not even listed as one of the revenue drivers for Fediverse/Mastodon communities in their docs. [1] You might also be interested to know that Mastodon was officially incorporated as a gGmbH (a German form of non-profit LLC) in 2021. [2] And the largest Fediverse server, mastodon.social, is itself operated by the Mastodon gGmbH non-profit. [3] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [1]: https://docs.joinmastodon.org/#monetization https://docs.joinmastodon.org/#monetization [2]: https://joinmastodon.org/fr/about https://joinmastodon.org/fr/about [3]: https://mastodon.social/explore https://mastodon.social/explore
- krainboltgreene 3y ago
  I wasn't being snarky and I read the HN guidelines nearly two decades before you joined HN.

Mastodon is a non-profit: https://joinmastodon.org/about https://joinmastodon.org/about

First, as a quick meta-response about the tone of your comment, please read HN guidelines[0]: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. [...] Edit out swipes. And regarding the GP comment, which says: >So you were growing, but not enough to keep investors happy, who would eventually throttle the product for every bit of return once it had even a smidgen of community momentum around it, and turn it into the same ad-filled mess that are the current alternatives. Where are the not-for-profits in this space? I'm assuming GP means he's looking for something: - Not optimizing for ROI after getting community momentum - Not ad-driven or ad-filled - Run by a non-profit In which case, yes, a very large portion of the Fediverse fits all three. I have never seen a single ad-supported instance of Mastodon, PixelFed, Lemmy, Diaspora, Friendica, Hubzilla, Funkwhale, Misskey or PeerTube. They might exist, and there are some big servers that have used/forked Mastodon for commercial purposes (eg Gab, Truth Social...) but they are not considered to be part of the Fediverse and are scarcely "federated" with anyone. Interestingly enough, "ad revenue" is not even listed as one of the revenue drivers for Fediverse/Mastodon communities in their docs. [1] You might also be interested to know that Mastodon was officially incorporated as a gGmbH (a German form of non-profit LLC) in 2021. [2] And the largest Fediverse server, mastodon.social, is itself operated by the Mastodon gGmbH non-profit. [3] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [1]: https://docs.joinmastodon.org/#monetization https://docs.joinmastodon.org/#monetization [2]: https://joinmastodon.org/fr/about https://joinmastodon.org/fr/about [3]: https://mastodon.social/explore https://mastodon.social/explore

krainboltgreene 3y ago
I wasn't being snarky and I read the HN guidelines nearly two decades before you joined HN.