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To me, Zionism is more than just the belief that Jewish people are entitled to a state of their own in the Levant. Because if at this point you say that you DON
by deanCommie 2y ago
To me, Zionism is more than just the belief that Jewish people are entitled to a state of their own in the Levant. Because if at this point you say that you DON'T believe that you are also saying that you don't care about what happens to the millions of them that live there now, or believe that that the displaced Palestinians themselves are entitled to some form of restitution against their oppressors.
Unfortunately we have to deal with the reality on the ground and the reality of Jewish people in the UN partition plan. Reparations must be made and expansion must be rolled back (all settlers out of west bank) but at the end of the day any future must involve either A) a state for Jewish people and a state for Palestinian people or B) A completely united state with full equality for all people.
To me Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people have an inherent RIGHT to an ethnic-orientated state in the Levant based on historical (biblical) tradition. There are many ethnic groups in the world without a homeland, and the crimes against humanity against Jews in WW2 did not necessitate such a state there, if it involved displacing others, which it did.
So I'm Anti-Zionist in the sense that I am against religion-based geopolicy, I am against any inherent "greater" reason for a Jewish state. I am a humanist who believes in the right for safety and prosperity for Jewish and Palestenian people. I am not interested in any solutions where either does not grant the other's humanity or right to safety and prosperity. Beyond that they need to AGGRESSIVELY self-police one another. Palestinians need to self-police (and prosecute) the terrorists and Hamas and keep them to justice. The Israelis need to self-police (and prosecute) the west bank settlers, and reform from the bottom up the IDF.
- vladgur 2y agoThank you for sharing, DeanCommie. In my experience reading the interwebs, a non-negligible amount of people see anti-Zionism as a belief that the state of Israel should not exist without seeming any nuance. Same goes for definition of Zionizm which often lacks nuance in the modern age. Because of this lack of nuance, both words are often weaponized in todays short form communication styles Your views are complexed and nuanced on other hand as they often are.