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Shifting it forward? His first three books were published in 81, 84 and 86. I agree with you that the foundational period slightly predates these, but I don't
by PaulDavisThe1st 3y ago
Shifting it forward?
His first three books were published in 81, 84 and 86.
I agree with you that the foundational period slightly predates these, but I don't consider the foundational period to be the same as when "hacker culture was established".
I began to encounter it myself starting in about 1979 via CoEvolution Quarterly/Whole Earth Review, but it was still very, very much evolving and continued to do so in very noticeable ways as I started programming in 1984.
I tend to consider the general use of IP as probably one of the main signifiers of hacker culture being established, and that was far from common in the 75-85 period (though growing rapidly).
- samatman 3y ago> I don't consider the foundational period to be the same as when "hacker culture was established". This is wrong by definition, is the thing. That's what foundational means: to found something is to establish its foundation. Dennett was simply not a significant part of that. The timeline isn't the reason for that, but it in fact suffices to make the case.
- PaulDavisThe1st 3y agoI don't really agree on this distinction between foundational and established. But we can just agree to disagree on that.
- PaulDavisThe1st 3y agoIt wasn't actually my claim that Dennett had much influence on hacker culture. I was originally disputing the idea that Dennett became well known after 1992.